Re: [boost] [logo] Boost logo variants for use in unofficial or unreleased boost documentation - was C++ Networking Library Release 0.5

Subject: Re: [boost] [logo] Boost logo variants for use in unofficial or unreleased boost documentation - was C++ Networking Library Release 0.5
From: Stewart, Robert (Robert.Stewart_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-02-01 16:41:46

Patrick Horgan wrote:
> Stewart, Robert wrote:  (...but patrick has done a lot of elision...)
> > Bjørn Roald wrote:
> >
> >> I dislike the "under construction" variant.  If we keep it it
> >> should be changed to "under construction for" two-liner, but
> >> I think "preliminary proposal for" cover tat use case better.
> >>
> > I agree that "for" is needed with "under construction," but
> > splitting "under construction for" into two lines won't look
> > right any way you try it.
> >
> I put up an "under construction for" for your perusal.

It looks as I imagined it would.  I don't care for it.

> Wouldn't it be fun to replace the graphic at left with some sort
> of construction equipment?  I'd whip it up, but I suspect that
> changing the graphic rather than overlaying text as we are would
> legally dilute the logo.

I don't think that's a good idea since none of the others use a graphical indication of the status.

> > I don't like that.  Until something is proposed, it isn't a
> > proposal.  How about "developing for" or "creating for?"  The
> > present participle implies ongoing work.
> >
> I would maintain that it would be a bit premature to put a
> boost icon on a project before it's a proposal.

That's an interesting point.  Still, the problem is that boosters expect a certain form of documentation and those developing a library with the intent to submit it often try to follow boost form well before submission.  They can, of course, insert some entirely different logo, but what?  Perhaps they should use the "powered by" logo until it has been submitted for review.

> o DESIGNED FOR - unclear what this means--designed to work
> with, or work using?

-1

> o PROPOSAL FOR - proposed for is better

+0 based upon the above (the "proposed" change is necessary, however)

> o ACCEPTED FOR - after you're accepted you could just use the
> boost logo.

-1

> o SKETCH PROPOSAL FOR - seems unclear to native US English
> speakers what this means.

-1

> o PRELIMINARY PROPOSAL FOR - as far as boost is concerned
> it's either a proposal at some stage or not and if it is you
> could use PROPOSED FOR.

-1

> o UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR - same arguments as PRELIMINARY
> PROPOSAL FOR, seems that you could just use PROPOSED FOR.

-1

> I like the idea of keeping both POWERED BY and USING even though they
> essentially mean the same thing, because the first is more
> exciting and edgy, which is what some projects would want, but
> others would prefer to use staid old USING.  I definitely prefer
> POWERED BY myself, but think that there would be wide variance in
> opinion.

I disagree with giving the choice.  It opens questions of which is better.

> So, that would leave the USING/POWERED BY pair, the PROPOSED FOR, and
> the regular boost icon which already exists and isn't part of this
> discussion.  That's my 7 3/4 cents.

I'm leaning toward just POWERED BY and the normal logo.  The former can apply to anything using Boost, as well as being developed or proposed for inclusion in Boost.  (The latter are powered by Boost because of Boost.Test and configuration, if nothing else.)  The normal logo applies to accepted libraries, whether part of the release distribution or not.

The POWERED BY variant must obviously be distinct.  It must be clear, at a glance, that the logo is for something other than an accepted Boost library.

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Rob Stewart                           robert.stewart_at_[hidden]
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