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From: Marshall Clow (mclow.lists_at_[hidden])
Date: 2020-12-02 16:12:07


On Dec 2, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jeff Garland via Boost <boost_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 8:50 AM Andrey Semashev via Boost <
> boost_at_[hidden] <mailto:boost_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>
>
> It doesn't need to define ABI for it to be real -- the library implementers
> are very aggressive in limiting ABI breaks. The former LEWG chair (Titus)
> was quite vocal in wanting to remove this constraint leading to vigorous
> debates and a vote which basically affirmed that the committee was very
> split on the matter, but preferred stability.
>
> As an example of this, libstdc++ had to switch their basic_string to a
>> non-reference counted implementation when they added support for C++11,
>> and they had to maintain both versions ever since. The standard,
>> obviously, only defines one basic_string.
>>
>
> And that was the last ABI break that made it thru the committee -- so a
> good decade ago.

And if you watch stack overflow, people are *still* getting bit by that change.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36159238/linking-problems-due-to-symbols-with-abicxx11 <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36159238/linking-problems-due-to-symbols-with-abicxx11> (2015)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34571583/understanding-gcc-5s-glibcxx-use-cxx11-abi-or-the-new-abi <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34571583/understanding-gcc-5s-glibcxx-use-cxx11-abi-or-the-new-abi> (2016)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47912089/why-is-the-wrong-gcc-7-2-libstdc-abi-being-selected-on-centos-7 <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47912089/why-is-the-wrong-gcc-7-2-libstdc-abi-being-selected-on-centos-7> (2017)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51382355/stdregex-and-dual-abi <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51382355/stdregex-and-dual-abi> (2018)
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54987856/boost-linking-problems/54987989#54987989 <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54987856/boost-linking-problems/54987989#54987989> (2019, in reference to boost!)

And so on.

— Marshall


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