Re: [Boost-mpi] No arg init

Subject: Re: [Boost-mpi] No arg init
From: Alain O Miniussi (alain.miniussi_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-03-19 05:57:25

Hi Matthias,

Has it been apply on a branch ? I don't think I see it on trunk.

Thanks.

Alain

On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 23:55 +0100, Matthias Troyer wrote:
> Hi Alain,
> 
> Thank you very much! I'll try to apply it tomorrow. I sometimes prefer the throwing ctor version since my codes often require a certain threading level if they are multi-threaded, but I can add that later.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Alain O Miniussi <alain.miniussi_at_oca.eu> wrote:
> 
> > Oups, forgot to send it to the list.
> > 
> > =================================
> > 
> > So, here is next patch, I think it integrates all the discussions except
> > for the throwing ctor, which can be added later if a consensus is
> > reached.
> > 
> > I did modify the documentation, but I do not know how to test those
> > changes. They are quite simple, but still...
> > 
> > As for the throwing ctors, my position was that I do not see a strong
> > argument in their favor, and would like to see what the user are saying
> > (as a user, they would be of no use, I'd like to get 'multiple', but
> > will need to deal with the other possibilities anyway, so throwing is
> > not a option. But that's just a sample of one).
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 08:27 -0700, Matthias Troyer wrote:
> >> Thank you! I've committed the patch to config.hpp to the trunk and have also updated the documentation.
> >> 
> >> Matthias
> >> 
> >> On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Alain O Miniussi <alain.miniussi_at_oca.eu> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> There is an attached patch with that change.
> >>> If it's ok, and once commited, I'll move to the thread init.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 23:05 +0100, Matthias Troyer wrote:
> >>>> On Dec 4, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Alain O Miniussi <alain.miniussi_at_oca.eu> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 12:55 -0500, Jeremiah Willcock wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Matthias Troyer wrote:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Jeremiah Willcock <jewillco_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Another issue with MPI versions is that Boost.MPI currently uses 
> >>>>>>>> functions such as MPI_Address that have been removed in MPI 3.0.  Is 
> >>>>>>>> that something that should be addressed in the future?  I think the 
> >>>>>>>> replacements for some of them did not exist before MPI 2.0.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> A valid point - we will have to provide two implementations depending on 
> >>>>>>> which version of MPI is present. Is there any standardized macro that 
> >>>>>>> one an check to determine the MPI version at compile time?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> There are MPI_VERSION and MPI_SUBVERSION, but those are in 2.0 and above 
> >>>>>> only as well.  You can probably use their being undefined to mean that the 
> >>>>>> implementation does not comply to 2.0.  I don't know how many 1.1-only MPI 
> >>>>>> implementations are around anymore, though; there may not be any still in 
> >>>>>> use (MPI 2.0 was released in 1997).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> That's a good point, especially if the "historical" C++ API was not
> >>>>> present in 1.1 (which I think it's the case, it's not clear to me if it
> >>>>> was introduced in 1.2 or 2.0). Maybe we should only take into
> >>>>> consideration 2.0 and 3.0. 
> >>>>> Also, if some 1.1 only API are still use, how many requires a Boost.MPI
> >>>>> interface ?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> As far as the no arg init is concerned, it seems to me that that
> >>>>> - providing them will simplify the API, 
> >>>>> - even if some 1.1 only MPI are still around, even if some of them have
> >>>>> a use for Boost.MPI, even if those do not support a no arg Init, theirs
> >>>>> users still have the possibility to provide those arguments anyway.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Alain
> >>>> 
> >>>> I checked the implementation and we do have a no arg init for MPI 2.0 or higher since that can be tested by MPI_VERSION. You can also manually define BOOST_MPI_HAS_NOARG_INITIALIZATION to enable it for MPI 1.2 or MPI 1.3 implementations. I assume that this is good enough and we might just want to edit the documentation to make the no arg version the default in the documentation.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Matthias
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
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> >> 
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