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From: Gabriel Dos Reis (gdr_at_[hidden])
Date: 2002-12-04 15:45:54


David Abrahams <dave_at_[hidden]> writes:

| Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr_at_[hidden]> writes:
|
| > David Abrahams <dave_at_[hidden]> writes:
| >
| > | "Eric Woodruff" <Eric.Woodruff_at_[hidden]> writes:
| > |
| > | > "David B. Held" <dheld_at_[hidden]> wrote in message
| > | > news:aslftb$cr2$1_at_main.gmane.org...
| > | >> "Eric Woodruff" <Eric.Woodruff_at_[hidden]> wrote in message
| > | >> news:aslbsn$nt3$1_at_main.gmane.org...
| > | >> > [snip]
| > | >> >
| > | >> > > holder<Foo> h;
| > | >> > > new (h.storage) Foo;
| > | >> >
| > | >> > What is the meaning of that syntax?
| > | >>
| > | >> This is placement new syntax. It means construct a Foo at the address
| > | >> h.storage, without allocating any memory.
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | > So the type really is of Foo, which has to mean that casting h.storage back
| > | > to a Foo* using reinterpret_cast is covered by the standard.
| > |
| > | No, the standard only guarantees that you can do a round-trip
| > | cast. The pointer didn't start out as a Foo*. The fact that it has the
| > | same address as a Foo* doesn't mean anything. Just for example,
| > | something like the following is a perverse but legal reinterpret_cast
| > | implementation:
| > |
| > | if is_pointer<source_type> and is_pointer<dest_type>
| > | return (dest_type)(
| > | (unisgned)src
| > | ^ sizeof(remove_pointer<source_type>::type)
| > | ^ sizeof(remove_pointer<dest_type>::type));
| >
| > And why isn't that applicable to the trip
| >
| > char* -> void* -> Foo*
|
| You mean aside from the fact that sizeof(void) is illegal? ;-)

Yeah ;-)

| If the implementation is such that the same bit pattern must be used
| to reference a given address, using reinterpret_cast would do
| something like
|
| p ^ sizeof(char) ^ sizeof(void) ^ sizeof(void) ^ sizeof(Foo)
|
| and, assuming sizeof(void) is well-defined the resulting pointer would
| have been xor'ed with sizeof(char) and sizeof(Foo), so it would point
| into outer space.

Thanks for your patience.

Now, imagine an implementation where the original type is remembered,
then dereferencing the pointer obtained from

   char* -> void* -> T*

may just eject you into the outer space.

-- Gaby


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