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From: David Abrahams (dave_at_[hidden])
Date: 2004-04-21 09:57:52
Vladimir Prus <ghost_at_[hidden]> writes:
> David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> The question is, what are the semantics?
>>
>> Input iterator requirements say:
>>
>> Expression Type Semantics
>> ---------- ---- ------------------------------
>> (void)r++ equivalent to (void)++r
>> *r++ T { T tmp = *r; ++r; return tmp; }
>>
>> But we don't have anything similar in the new concepts. I guess
>> that's because we're trying to orthogonalize access and traversal, but
>> that may not be possible in this case. If we don't define the
>> semantics of *r++, a single-pass iterator is free to implement the
>> semantics of *r++ as equivalent to *++r, which is what
>> directory_iterator is doing.
>
> Let me see. The r++ is required to be:
>
> {
> X tmp = r;
> ++r;
> return tmp;
> }
>
> After assignment to 'tmp', *tmp returns the right value. After ++r it
> returns different value.
Right. That is intentionally allowed for input iterators, and in fact
some do work that way.
> Well, while it seems intuitive that 'tmp' is always equal to itself
> and so *tmp should be always equivivalent to *tmp
I don't understand what any of that means. Maybe I'm just confused
because it's just too obvious a tautology.
> I agree that this is very loose interpretation of
>
> pre: a is dereferenceable. If a == b then *a
> is equivalent to *b.
And I don't see how the above relates to this, either.
> But really, isn't it right to assume that repeating applications of
> operator* with no ++ in between will return the same value?
I believe that's guaranteed by the above precondition you cited.
>> I'm sure directory_iterator is reporting that its category is
>> input_iterator_tag, so I guess we have a problem in the new
>> iterator concepts and in the iterator_facade implementation here.
>>
>>> And BTW, don't the above requirements
>>
>> Which ones?
>
> The requirent that return type of r++ should be X (in Incrementable
> iterator).
>
>>> mean r++ cannot return a proxy object, but only a real copy of the
>>> iterator?
That's right.
>> The input iterator requirements seem to imply that, for true
>> single-pass sequences like streams, either:
>>
>> a. the iterator can store a copy of its value_type so that the
>> iterator returned from r++ can still return the 'tmp' value
>> indicated above when dereferenced
>>
>> b. the iterator can track whether an iterator returned from a
>> post-increment is "active and not yet dereferenced"
>>
>> case b. is interesting; it would mean that operator++(int) can set a
>> flag telling the iterator to consume another value before
>> dereferencing.
>
> Oh, it can be described as "deferred post-increment", which is actually done
> only on next deference. But still, won't it reasonable to expect that after
> the following code:
>
> some_iterator i = ..
>
> some_iterator p1 = *i;
^-----you don't mean that, do you?
> ++i;
> some_iterator p2 = *i;
> ++i;
> ...
> some_iterator pN = *i;
>
> all iterators are still return the "right" values?
I don't think the standard gives you any assurance of that, and in
fact I doubt that it was intended that input iterators be forced to
store a value, and in fact note 3 in 24.1.1 seems to confirm my doubt:
-3- [Note: For input iterators, a == b does not imply ++a ==
++b. (Equality does not guarantee the substitution property or
referential transparency.) Algorithms on input iterators should
never attempt to pass through the same iterator twice. They
should be single pass algorithms...]
-- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com
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