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From: Richard Glanmark (Richard.Glanmark_at_[hidden])
Date: 2005-12-19 07:57:57

> -----Original Message-----
> From: boost-bounces_at_[hidden]
> [mailto:boost-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Gennadiy Rozental
> Sent: den 15 december 2005 22:39
> To: boost_at_[hidden]
> Subject: Re: [boost] [Review] Boost.Logging: formal review
> > 1. Enabled/disabled logger, logging macros and efficiency
> >
> > The logging macro BOOST_LOG should accept two arguments
> instead of one.
> > The logger and the log message. The syntax
> >
> > (1) BOOST_LOG(some_log) << "my message " << foo() << bar();
> >
> > should be replaced with
> >
> > (2) BOOST_LOG(some_log, "my message " << foo() << bar());
> >
> > and the macro being defined something like this
> >
> > (3) #define BOOST_LOG(logger, msg) \
> > if(logger.isEnabled()) { /* code that logs msg */ ... }
> >
> > Thus, disabled loggers will never take longer than simple
> > if-statement, as long as the isEnabled() method is fast, which IMO
> > should take no longer than comparing booleans.
> 1. I think this is also the case in original interface.
> > In the original solution (1) the method foo() will always
> be called,
> > which is inefficient when the logger is disabled, in solution (2),
> > foo() will never be called when the logger is disabled.
> I think you are mistaken

Yes, my mistake.

> > Further more, the macro could insert extra information such as
> > __LINE__, __FILE__ etc.
> This is also true for original interface.

Yes true -- my mistake again (I didn't look enough at the implementation
of the macro).

> All in all I prefer message not be inside brackets. It looks
> much more natural and I don't see any theoretical problens to
> get the same performance. But I also believe that macro
> shouldn't be a primary interface.
> So if you prefer message inside the breakets - it's your choice.

However, there is one additional benefit of placing the message inside
brackets. One can remove the log statement in a build. Other than that,
I guess its style preferences.

> > 2. Filtering
> >
> > There has been some discussion about the ability of a library to be
> > able to do more filtering than simple log levels, notably
> by Gennadiy
> > Rozental.
> >
> > Gennadiy writes:
> >> At the bare minimum it should support:
> >>
> >> entry level - levels set is ordered set of values indication
> > importance of
> >> information provided. Filtering is based on threshold. Examples:
> >
> >> entry category - categories set is a set of unique values
> indicating
> > kind of
> >> information provided Filtering is based on masking.
> >
> >> entry keyword - keyword set is set of user defined keywords (most
> > frequently strings)
> >> identifying area of the program. Filtering is based on match of
> > keywords.
> >> Keywords usually are used to mark specific part of application.
> >
> > I agree that it is very important for a logging library to
> support this.
> > However, I do not think that the solution is for the
> logging library
> > to be aware of such special values. The library should be as
> > simplistic as
> My position that library should be configurable by any class
> satisfying Filter concept.
> This particular filters could probably be supplied by the
> library as an example and as most widely useful.
> > My proposed solution is to basically let loggers be somewhat entry
> > (Gennadiy's definition above) unaware. Instead, let the developer be
> I do not see how it's possible. IMO framework should employ
> some MPL magic and construct proper entry structure based on
> set of Filters passed as template policy parameters.
> > entry aware. By that I mean that the developer should log messages
> > that belong to a specific entry category/level to a
> specific logger.
> > For
> This is never be acceptable IMO. Even with 3 filters, each
> ahving 5 possible values you looking into 125 different loggers.

Support for log functions on top of a basic framework solution is needed
to alleviate this problem. I wouldn't mind that the library provides log
funtions that take various filter functions or predicates to determine
wether to send a log statement to a logger. In this case, the logger
would be enabled and the log filter function would send log statements
to the logger if the log statement meets some criteria.

Still, the underlying logger framework would be the same; logger object
should still be enabled or disabled/enabled, there would still be a few
different logger objects for different levels and possible other user
defined criteria.

IMO it is very important for an administrator/programmer of a system to
be able to enable/disable logs, know what loggers and appenders exists
and be able to configure said entities. If filter is only done on a per
log statement, how do you even know as a administrator of a system what
log filters exists? Which filter criteria should be enabled and which
filter criteria should be disabled?

If all log statements are sent to one logger object, the logger object
becomes a monolith of functionality and complexity. Runtime performance
might degrade considerable if various filters is to be checked, not only
if the log statements should be logged, but also if one wants to send
log statements to different appenders/sinks/destinations.



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