From: Daniel Walker (daniel.j.walker_at_[hidden])
Date: 2007-03-22 15:53:22
On 3/22/07, shunsuke <pstade.mb_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> Daniel Walker wrote:
> > Plus, as Eric pointed out earlier in this thread, the result_of
> > convention of using result<> for return types is now standard (is that
> > TR1?). Why shouldn't lambda follow it?
> As pointed, lambda should and can follow 'result_of'
> by using this way: http://tinyurl.com/2xw4s2
> , which will be <boost/lambda/result_of.hpp> or something.
> Note that the nullary instantiation seems not special case.
OK I think we're getting closer to a good solution.
Your file has specializations for lambda::lambda_functor that work for
lambda expressions, which is why the nullary instantiations work. My
result_of patch also had a specialization for lambda::lambda_functor,
which made the nullary case work.
If lambda expressions provided the standard result<> (as Eric
suggested and my lambda patch implements) only the specializations for
the nullary case would be necessary (unless this special case were
removed entirely from result_of using has_template_xxx).
I would be perfectly happy using your <boost/lambda/result_of.hpp> for
the nullary case alone, if we moved it to
<boost/lambda/detail/result_of.hpp> and had the boost/lambda/* headers
include it so that lambda/result_of interoperability was transparent
to the user. That combined with the lambda patch would probably
However, this doesn't take care of the case where the user would like
to use a lambda compatible functor with result_of directly, as in
calling a functor right away rather than delaying the call with
lambda::bind per my previous example in this thread. It also doesn't
take care of your example of calling lambda::construct<> directly
To handle lambda::construct<> and the other lambda wrapper functors
you could add nullary specialization of result_of to your file. We
should also have the wrapper classes expose result<> so that they are
more standard conformant. This will handle the nary result_of cases
for lambda wrapper functors.
To handle arbitrary user defined lambda compatible functors still
requires adding sig<> support to result_of (or a function adapter that
user's can use to convert their functors). Or we could just not handle
this case. Users currently can't use these functors with result_of
anyway. So, I suppose no one's feelings will be hurt if result_of
doesn't support their current lambda compatible functors. Besides,
when they upgrade to the result<> standard that lambda accepts with my
patch, they get result_of compatibility as a bonus. If we don't handle
user defined lambda compatible functors I see no need to patch
result_of at all, which I think would make everyone happy.
This is beginning to sound like a good approach to me.
> > The third case could be changed to be dependent on the number of
> > arguments (after giving the user a chance to supply result_type or
> > result<>) if that's preferable. This is simple to implement with
> > has_template_xxx. Am I missing something?
> As the rationale states, nullary intantiations of 'result_of'
> must always succeed even if the functions are never called.
> (Hence, it has the *default* result type -- 'void'.)
> Can has_template_xxx detect whether or not
> a sig-compatible functor is nullary-callable?
Yes. With my patch nullary instantiations of result_of are succeeding:
result_of<F()>::type is void. The problem as far as I can tell is that
result_of is choosing the default void rather than correctly deducing
the actual return type as given by F::result<F()>::type or
F::sig<tuple<F> >::type. But this has always been a limitation of
result_of. The way to get around it is by specializing result_of for
nullary F. I believe has_template_xxx could take away this limitation
by only choosing the default type void when the functor doesn't have
> >> I guess a sig-compatible functor which is nullary-callable must be
> >> ported to result_of, even if the patch is applied.
> > The same is true for a result-compatible functor as described above.
> > This is an existing limitation of result_of which we may or may not
> > want to address.
> If user workarounds of sig-compatible functor users cannot be removed,
> that patch loses the original intention?
I'm not sure if I fully understand your question, but the patch
doesn't lose the original intent entirely. Users can still use nary
sig-compatible functors, which they couldn't use before. (However, as
I stated above, it would be convenient but I'm not sure that it's
necessary for result_of to support the current sig convention.) Lambda
users are in the same boat as people writing result-compatible
functors when it comes to nullary calls. They need to write a
specialization of result_of for when their functor is called with no
arguments. result_of doesn't attempt to automatically deduce the type,
although it could with has_template_xxx.
> has_template_xxx seems not to work.
> I tried this:
> typedef char value_type;
> pair_maker(value_type, value_type)
> This assertion fails under VC7.1/VC8.
That's expected. Someone needs to cover the compiler workarounds that
has_xxx includes, and I'm not sure if I can do that right away. I may
give it a shot. Note that result_of still works on VC7.1 and VC8, but
the new functionality is not be available.
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