Subject: Re: [boost] Review Request: Introduction of boost::string namespace and string-conversion functions
From: Andrey Semashev (andrey.semashev_at_[hidden])
Date: 2009-02-13 11:41:37
> 2. The name of the namespace.
> People largely seem content with "boost::string".
> Therefore, unless something major comes up later we are settling on
Sorry, I still don't think that's a good idea. The problems that were
mentioned seem quite real to me, whereas the namespace name can be
easily changed to another one without problems.
If boost::strings isn't good enough, there was another suggestion - to
use the boost::algorithms namespace in the Boost.StringAlgorithms
library. Actually, submitting these tools as the StringAlgorithms
extension looks quite a viable idea to me.
> 3. Naming of the conversion functions.
> The "to/from/is" set seems to sit well with the majority of people.
> The to_string/from_string was floated around as alternatives. I feel that
> the "_string" extension indeed serves a mildly useful purpose when the
> "string" namespace is obfuscated. Like
> namespace boost::string obfuscated;
> string str = obfuscated::from(i); // What the...?
> string str = obfuscated::to_string(i); // Somewhat better but
I must say, this is my case. However, I tend to use acronyms for
namespace bll = boost::lambda;
namespace bmi = boost::multi_index;
As for this tool, I would probably
namespace bsl = boost::string;
Then the library usage becomes a mess.
> When used sensibly
> string str = boost::string::from(i);
That's too lengthy.
> namespace boost::string str;
> string str = str::from(i);
That's possible, however, str is often used as a variable name. I don't
like the idea of messing it with the namespace alias.
> the intention seems clear and the following feels like a tautology:
> string str = boost::string::to_string(i);
Maybe that's another sign that the namespace name is suboptimal.
> 4. String-To-Something Conversion Interface.
> I think people on the original
> lexical_cast-realted thread were pretty content with
> int i = boost::string::to<int>(str, -1);
> syntax. If so, then we won't need
> int i = to(str).or_default(-1)
> int i = to(str, default_ = -1)
I think, "to<int>(str, -1)" does not exclude "to(str, default_ = -1)".
I'd like to have both, especially since Boost.Parameter allows it. Then
I could have:
int i = to< int >(str, -1);
int i = to< int >(str, default_ = -1);
int i = to< int >(str, radix_ = 16);
bool f = to< bool >(str, bool_alpha_ = true);
int i = to< int >(str, locale_ = loc, default_ = 100);
> 6. Something-To-String Conversion Interface.
> That did not seem to generate much heat at all. I'll summarize to make
> sure we see it the same way:
> template<class T>
> boost::string::from(T const&) throw();
> Does not throw. No default value (do we need one?). Returns string() of
I think, it should be symmetric to the "from-string" conversions and
should have the same capabilities, including default values. See my
> 8. Throw/No-Throw Behavior.
> You might have noticed that the interface above *never* throws
> failure. I would like to highlight the fact (as it's different from
> lexical_cast behavior) and make sure people are happy with it. Those who
> need an exception thrown could do
> boost::value<int> i2 = boost::string::to<int>(str, -1);
> if (!i2.good()) throw something youself;
> Is it satisfactory?
Aside from symbol names, looks acceptable to me.
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