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Subject: Re: [boost] [logo] Boost logo variants for use in unofficial or unreleased boost documentation - was C++ Networking Library Release 0.5
From: Stewart, Robert (Robert.Stewart_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-02-02 08:51:38

Joachim Faulhaber wrote:
> 2010/2/1 Patrick Horgan <phorgan1_at_[hidden]>:
> >
> > My 3 cents. If they have been rejected, but are still
> > working to improve
> > the proposal, then they are still proposed for. If they
> > have abandoned the
> > effort, either by abandoning the software completely, or by
> > deciding to
> > continue without the software outside of any association
> > with boost, then
> > they don't need a special icon for that state. They might
> > be using boost,
> > but are not in any other way associated with boost.
> Why are you assuming that failing in a formal review implies
> abandoning association to boost. This can be an understandable
> reaction if grand and unrealistic expectations were held that
> did not meet reality.

If the library was rejected, and the author chooses not to try again, that library has no association with Boost other than that its author is/was a Booster. If the library is further developed outside Boost, in the spirit of Boost, but without seeking acceptance into Boost, then nothing can be known of its state, particularly relative to Boost, except that it wasn't accepted by Boost. It may be great, it might even be accepted today were the author to retry, or it might be horrible. Therefore, it mustn't bear a Boost logo except, perhaps, the "powered by Boost" logo to avoid the suggestion that Boost approves of the library.

> Other people may experience they learned a lot and have
> another try in a different library project.

What the author learns from Boost and the review process isn't relevant to putting a Boost logo on the rejected library.

> My idea to introduce a state "boost compliant" could be an
> acknowledgement
> of the simple truth, that the library, in the process to be
> prepared for formal
> review gained quality and implements all the conventions and
> properties
> that are necessary (but not necessarily sufficient) for a
> boost library to be accepted.

If the library was rejected, it was good enough for a review manager and the review wizards to put it up for review. That means something, there's no doubt. Since the library was rejected, and without locating and reading the review results, nothing is known about the quality of the library. Applying any Boost logo besides "powered by" or similar implies more than is known. (I'm speaking in generalities. Of course someone could review a specific library, consider the review results, etc., and determine whether that library good enough to grant permission to use some variant Boost logo. In the general case, however, no such determination can be made merely based upon a library's having been rejected.)

Putting a "Boost compliant" logo on a library lends the Boost name to that library and gives tacit approval of that library. Since the library was rejected, that hardly seems wise.

Rob Stewart robert.stewart_at_[hidden]
Software Engineer, Core Software using std::disclaimer;
Susquehanna International Group, LLP

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