Subject: Re: [boost] [gil] New IO release
From: Christian Henning (chhenning_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-11-22 19:24:54
Hi Domagoj, good to hear from you!
Not sure if you noticed, gil::io_new has scheduled a review starting
Dec, 1st. For this I wont make changes to the source until the review
>>> Um, to rewind things a little to make sure we are talking about the same
>>> thing. I was talking about reusing the backend library objects/instances
>>> (e.g. TIFF, jpeg_decompress_struct, ...), which IO2 supports and IO_new
>>> AFAICT does not.
>> You can reuse a TIFF* but not reuse a jpeg_decompress_struct. It might
>> be a good idea to add these objects to the image_read_settings<
>> jpeg_tag > structures.
> Hmm...for this not to turn out akward/non-RAII-like you'd probably need to
> make your image_read_settings<> into a non-trivial class with proper
> initialisation and destruction...IOW your design would become more
> object-based (more io2-like)...which is what I'm proposing all along (and
> the way io2 is already designed ;)
io_new is also object-oriented but it also provides, as you know, the
free floating helper functions like read_image, etc. Even though, I
don't state it in the documentation but you could use the underlying
classes also. All image formats use the same reader class which is
hidden inside the detail namespace. For instance:
[taken from image_read.hpp]
> reader( file
reader.apply( view( img ));
This object can be reused at will. But I have a question for you. Are
you sure you can easily reuse a jpeg_decompress_struct object and jump
around a jpeg image without getting it confused? I mean, for instance,
imagine you read the last image line first and then try to read the
first line. Does that work?
>>> Simply reusing the low level source object (like a FILE) will make little
>>> difference if, for every ROI you read, you have to recreate the backend
>>> library object which in turn implies rereading the whole image up to the
>>> requested ROI instead of just continuing where you left off...
>> Is this statement true when an std::ifstream object is used?
> Well yes, the type of the input/source object does not matter...the problem
> is in the fact that the backend object (e.g. jpeg_decompress_struct) is
> destroyed and recreated (e.g. for each call to read_image()) which in turn
> requires/makes the backend library code reread the image from the beginning
> (to read the header, dimensions, format etc...)...
See my question from above.
>> More advanced use cases might need such access to low level objects. I
>> agree with you that my current implementation lacks support for some
>> advanced use cases.
> The problem (in this particular case) is not (primarily) in the
> implementation but in the interface/design of io_new...
> If we can agree on this and that io2 solves these problems better would you
> agree to switch to (an) io2(-like) interface so we can merge and join our
> efforts? I can write some preliminary documentation on the base
> formatted_image (that forms the backbone of io2) and the requirements that
> each xxx_image implementation class (libpng_image, wic_image...) must fulfil
> according to which you can try and port for example your GIF reader and
> then, through this experience, say your objections/what you think needs to
> be changed/improved, how to accommodate/fit into/work with other parts of
> your work (the toolbox, the properties system...)...
I would love to work with you to create the best image reader/writer
possible for the boost community. Let's see what the review brings to
the table and afterwards we can start sorting out the major
differences. How does that sound?
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