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Subject: Re: [boost] Respecting a projects toolchain decisions
From: Klaim (mjklaim_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-12-27 10:51:54

As far as I unserstand, and tell me if I'm wrong, the point Dean is making
is that using a decentralised source control tool would allow anywone to
just clone the original library, make the changes, put the modified library
online and allow anyone to get "just the change-sets" he made, maybe more
change-sets from different people that have fixed different things in the
If the maintainer of the library wants to get thoses changesets in the
authoritative repository, that's good, but as it takes time, allowing people
to expose freely changes in a better form than patch files in a bug-tracker
will help to allow users to get quickly fixes and enhancements that are not
yet reviewed by maintainers.
And also to propose change-sets to those people making non-authoritative
changes without to first have to wait their changes make in the autoritative

It's only about exposing change-sets in fact. Am I correct?


On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 16:39, Nelson, Erik - 2 <
erik.l.nelson_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> Dean Michael Berris wrote on Monday, December 27, 2010
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Vladimir Prus
> <vladimir_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >> Would you please specify a concrete example where innovation in a
> >> library that you personally is contributing to is slowed down by
> >> centralized version control?
> >>
> >Boost.Pool is one, and the other was Boost.Iterators.
> >With Boost.Pool, there's no maintainer around (that I know)
> >who's checking patches submitted to it and making sure
> >the changes make it into the releases.
> >With Boost.Iterators, it took a while to get a patch for an
> >additional iterator implementation to get into trunk -- and
> >I'm not even sure if my patch has made it into the release yet.
> It's not clear to me that these problems have anything to do with
> Subversion... regardless of which vcs is used, *someone* is going to be
> the designated maintainer/owner of the library, and if you can't get
> them to include your patches, your patches won't be in the Boost
> release, right?
> In that case you'd need to do the same thing you would do under the
> current system... get yourself named maintainer/owner and then do it
> yourself.
> Am I missing something there?
> It seems to me that there's no shortage of innovation going on in
> Boost... I've seen many fine libraries released over the years. My
> observation is that there's some shortage of people who want to do the
> laborious work... review manager, release manager, BoostCon organizer,
> etc. My hat's off to the folks that do the heavy lifting there, and it
> seems reasonable that they should have a larger voice on how that
> process works.
> Erik
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