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Subject: Re: [boost] Interest in multi-dimensional array class templates.
From: Larry Evans (cppljevans_at_[hidden])
Date: 2011-06-23 18:13:16


On 06/23/11 16:30, Brian Smith wrote:
> On 6/23/11, Larry Evans <cppljevans_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>> On 06/23/11 09:09, Larry Evans wrote:
>>> On 06/23/11 08:08, Frank Mori Hess wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2011, Brian Smith wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is also Boost.MultiArray, has the overlap with that library been
>>>>>> addressed already?
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of the way in which the two libraries create and manipulate
>>>>> storage there's no overlap. Ultimately they serve the same purpose,
>>>>> however, Boost.MultiArray doesn't provide statically allocated arrays
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that's true. I've never tried it, but multi_array_ref
>>>> "provides the MultiArray interface over any contiguous block of elements"
>>>> so
>>>> it seems like you could create one of those which uses statically
>>>> allocated
>>>> storage.
>>>>
>>>>> and generally provides poorer performance.
>>>>
>>>> Is that assertion based on actual testing (with NDEBUG defined), or is
>>>> there
>>>> some by-design reason your performance would be better?
>>>>
>>> IIUC, Brian's templates provide something akin to:
>>>
>>> template
>>> < typename T
>>> , std::size_t... Lengths
>>> >
>>> struct array
>>> ;
>>>
>>> corresponding to multi_array's:
>>>
>>> template
>>> < typename T
>>> , std::size_t NumDims
>>> >
>>> struct multi_array
>>> ;
>>>
>>> where T serves the same purpose as multi_array's T and
>>> sizeof...(Lengths) = multi_array's NumDims and the Lengths,
>>> instead of being passed to the CTOR, as in multiarray and
>>> being runtime values, are specified as compile-time constants.
>>>
>>
>> I should have been more explicit about why that *might* result
>> in a speedup. Because Lengths... are compile time constants,
>> the strides and the num_elements could be calculated at
>> compile time. Since num_elements is a compile time constant,
>> no dynamic allocation would be needed; hence array construction
>> would be faster IOW, the data could be
>> a member variable like:
>>
>> T array<T, Lengths>::data[NumElements];
>>
>> where NumElements is the compile time constant calculated from
>> Lengths.... Likewise, there could be a strides_t such as
>> that shown here:
>>
>> template
>> < typename T
>> , std::size_t... Lengths
>> >
>> struct array
>> {...
>> typedef
>> boost::mpl::vector_c
>> < std::size_t
>> , std::size_t... Strides
>> >
>> strides_t;
>> ...
>> };
>>
>> Where Strides... is calculated, using mpl::fold or some such.
>> Thus, since array indexing uses the strides to get at the
>> indexed T, and since, in this case, the strides are compile-time
>> constants, I'm guessing that array indexing would be faster.
>>
>> Does that sound right?
>>
>> -regards,
>> Larry
>>
>>From the above definition of the array, namely,
>
> template
> < typename T
> , std::size_t... Lengths
> >
> struct array
> ;
>
> the generated member type, data say, in the static case, is
> T[Lengths1][Lengths2]...[LengthsN], where N is the number of Lengths
> supplied. The indexing operator accepting a single std::size_t type, s
> say, for data element access returns an internally defined type, i.e.,
> a T[Lengths2]...[LengthsN], via data[s], and simply relies on compiler
> generated code on any remaining indexes.
>
> Regards
> Brian

>From reading your must recent reply to Frank and your above
reply, I confess I was completely wrong about how the code worked.
Hmmm. This part of your reply to Frank:

  use recursion on a supplementary array supplied
  set of indexes

made me think of the attached, which, surprisingly,
seems to work on the simple code provided; yet, it doesn't
use anything like what's described here:

  the number of pointer symbols appended being determined from the
  dimensionality argument passed in the template declaration,

from your reply to Frank. Maybe array_recur can spur some
more implementation ideas. Hope so.

-regards
Larry




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