Re: [boost] [containers] Are there flat_map/set and stable_vector proposals at work?

Subject: Re: [boost] [containers] Are there flat_map/set and stable_vector proposals at work?
From: Klaim - Joël Lamotte (mjklaim_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-11-09 18:44:45

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Jonathan Wakely
<jwakely.boost_at_[hidden]>wrote:

> > Boost's flat_set and flat_map are preferable as default container than
> > std::set/map in almost all cases I've been working on in the last 5 years
> > (which include time I couldn't use these containers
> > in practice).
>
> So you almost never need iterator and reference stability?
>

I do sometime need reference stability but far less often than one would
expect.
Fast lookup in (relatively) small maps or set are far more common in my
experience.

> Because if you don't need them, then yes, a sorted std::vector might
> be a better choice, or another container such as boost::flat_set,
> which is great and readily available from Boost - maybe you've heard
> of it ;-)
>
>
Yes and I use them a lot. :)

> It looks like I'm not the only one praising these kind of containers:
> > http://www.slashslash.info/2013/10/ode-to-a-flat-set/
>
> I'm not saying they're not useful. I specifically said they're useful,
> you even quoted me saying that. Stop trying to convince me they're
> useful.
>
>
That was not my point but I might not have been clear.
My point that I disagree with your following objection, but uniquely for
these specific containers.

> I'm objecting to the (IMHO too common) view that everything useful
> should be put in the standard.  There are things missing from the
> standard (networking, databases, XML/XSLT processing, graphics) that
> would be better for the committee and implementors to spend time on
> than different containers with small-ish variations on the interfaces
> and properties of the existing standard containers.  The flat_map and
> flat_set containers exist and are perfectly usable for those who want
> them.
>
>
I understand your objection in general, but I also believe it's actually
problematic that there is no
sorted vector kind of containers in the standard library today. I also
hoped that more very useful boost libraries would
get standardized faster.
I'll stop here for the talking anyway, there is no point in convincing
anyone here I guess. :)