Re: [boost] Boost 2.x - (Was Re: Boost is supposed to serve *the entire C++ community; it isn't Boost's goal to serve Boost's community*)

Subject: Re: [boost] Boost 2.x - (Was Re: Boost is supposed to serve *the entire C++ community; it isn't Boost's goal to serve Boost's community*)
From: Vicente J. Botet Escriba (vicente.botet_at_[hidden])
Date: 2016-05-22 17:21:02

Le 22/05/2016 à 22:51, Edward Diener a écrit :
> On 5/22/2016 4:16 PM, Vicente J. Botet Escriba wrote:
>> Le 22/05/2016 à 21:19, Edward Diener a écrit :
>>> On 5/22/2016 2:28 PM, Vicente J. Botet Escriba wrote:
>>>> Le 21/05/2016 à 18:09, Edward Diener a écrit :
>>>>> On 5/21/2016 11:52 AM, Vicente J. Botet Escriba wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wether we want a "C++14 only" Boost  version is another thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> What could it possibly achieve to have a Boost with only C++11 or
>>>>> above libraries or a Boost with only C++14 or above libraries, as
>>>>> opposed to having Boost as we have it now in which each library can
>>>>> choose what level of C++ support it requires ? I would really like to
>>>>> get a technical answer, as opposed to an emotional response about
>>>>> "moving forward" and "looking to the future" and "serving the entire
>>>>> C++ community", to that question by those who propose such ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I repeat myself : whether we want to do it is another question.
>>>> Is it worth doing it? I don't know. It needs a lot of resources and
>>>> energy.
>>>> What we as a Boost community could lost having additionally these new
>>>> Boost versions?
>>>
>>> Many of these are reasonable wishes. But I do not see what having a
>>> Boost version which supports only C++14 on up compilation has to do
>>> with any of them. Care to explain what facilities in C++14 on up is
>>> going to make any of your wishes happen ?
>>>
>> All of them.
>
> All the things you desire are made possible by C++14 features ? A 
> modularized set of libraries is made possible by C++14 features ? A 
> CMake implementation for a set of libraries is made possible by C++14 
> features ? A continuous testing implementation is made possible by 
> C++14 features ? A system of analysis and analyzers for code integrity 
> are made possible ny C++14 features ?

I suspect that you have not read my message. I said
 > Starting a new Boost version supporting only new compilers has two 
sides: starting a new version and on new compilers.

All the questions above are unrelated to C++. They are associated to 
starting a new Boost version and state new constraints fro this new Boost.
>
> Or is it that you just feel that if you are part of a team working on 
> a new set of libraries dedicated to only the latest C++ standard you 
> will have more power to implement what you want to do ?
If you read my message you will see that we can do a lot of things by 
resetting the basis, even for C++98.
>
> I just don't follow that having just C++14 libraries, or even just 
> C++11/C++14 libraries, has anything to do with the wishes that you 
> have enumerated.
It has to be with a new Boost version with different constraints. I 
haven't the energy to start a new Boost version for C++98 compilers. But 
I will be for doing it dor C++11/C++14/C++1z.
Vicente