Re: [boost] [Beast] Questions Before Review

Subject: Re: [boost] [Beast] Questions Before Review
From: Artyom Beilis (artyom.beilis_at_[hidden])
Date: 2017-06-30 20:21:43

בתאריך 30 ×‘×™×•× ×™ 2017 9:57 אחה״צ,‏ "Robert via Boost" <boost_at_[hidden]>
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On 6/25/2017 5:02 PM, Robert Ramey via Boost wrote:

> On 6/25/17 2:02 PM, Artyom Beilis via Boost wrote:
>
>> Hello Vinnie Falco,
>>
>> I have several design questions regarding this library before the review.
>>
>> Header Only Design
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> As somebody who worked with guys who do web development, it was very
>> clear that compilation time is an issue.
>>
>> A simple build of http_server_small.cpp example requires about 6s(!)
>> of compilation time g++ 5.4
>> http_server_fast.cpp takes 7s
>>
>> In comparison entire message board containing templates code flow SQL and
>> more
>> leads to only 4s - non paralel build.
>> (https://github.com/artyom-beilis/cppcms/tree/master/example
>> s/message_board
>> )
>>
>
> I'm certainly missing something here.  Why is compile time of 4-7 seconds
> any kind of issue? When would a web developer compile the library.  Please
> expand on this as I'm not getting it all.
>
> Robert Ramey
>

I too am missing something regarding compilation time.  A C# asp.net web
site takes roughly five seconds to, "Build."  Then launching it within
Visual Studio adds more time, coming up to around one minute and sometimes
more, until the browser completes rendering the page.

Robert

You aren't compared to asp.net but to php/python/rails/nodejs that are the
trendiest web development tools today.

Even big projects start quite quickly with java / servlet

And as a reference one of the simple examples provided compiles for about
30s ! If you multiply this by complexity of normal project the times become
intolerable.

Considering that beast does 1/100 of what others tools provide (even if in
cool asio way) the price becomes too high.

All it needed is to do classic OOD instead and you'll get much wider
audience. With much better error reporting by the compiler,  smaller code,
and easier development, consider streight forward support of HTTP / https
out of the box in some code.

Doing temple based solution asio style for HTTP library IMHO is a design
error.

Artyom