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RE: [boost] Re: Customer Friendlier Boost Installation
by Martin Bonner 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

----Original Message---- From: Jason Earl [mailto:Jason@hybd.net] Sent: 25 May 2005 15:32 To: boost(a)lists.boost.org Subject: Re: [boost] Re: Customer Friendlier Boost Installation > I think a lot of Windows users are too used to things just working > out of the box, and give up if things don't work like that. If you change that to "A lot of Windows users are used to things just working out of the box, and give up if things don't work like that", you have it exactly right. What is wrong with such expectation? > > As for understanding what targets are etc, I think most developers > will know what targets are. I don't. If you use the Microsoft IDE, you never use the term. [snip] > Maybe it would be good to have some control over build verbosity > (there probably already is some, I just haven't looked yet), Maybe > logging the build info to a file would be better and then logging > errors, messages etc to the screen (and maybe a separate) log file. What people REALLY want, is to download headers + pre-built binaries. If they can't have that, then next best is a pretty gui which asks them all the questions (with the right defaults), and just works. If they can't have that, then really good documentation is required, and I don't think boost is there yet. -- Martin Bonner Martin.Bonner(a)Pitechnology.com Pi Technology, Milton Hall, Ely Road, Milton, Cambridge, CB4 6WZ, ENGLAND Tel: +44 (0)1223 441434

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RE: [boost] Re: Customer Friendlier Boost Installation
by Brian Braatz 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Wild thought- Is there a rational way to have a "environment" checker. I am NOT a bjam expert- but it would be handy if we had some cmd line program that would follow spit out all the info BJAM looks for and finds. I am slightly half cocked in this idea, but basically it would have to be enough information that you could get a better sense for what Bjam was doing Something like C:\boost\> boostenvcheck.exe ** Enviroment Report** Python is not in the path User-config.jam file is setup to use gcc, vc7.1 Etc.... I have been using boost for (has it been that long) 2 years now. Bjam still confounds me. ( I appreciate the work effort, it is a cool tool, I remain struggling with it though) (I am also a tad frustrated because I have been trying to make vc7.1 build wave for the last 5 hours) Semi-Related: I proposed (a long time ago) building a SIMPLE gui framework- with the core elements, and then making a "boost environment checker" out of that- I.e. imagine a tree control with all the types of settings and what nots, and the ability to navigate this gui to try to determine what is not set correctly. > -----Original Message----- > From: boost-bounces(a)lists.boost.org [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] > On Behalf Of Lars Gullik Bjønnes > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:27 AM > To: boost(a)lists.boost.org > Subject: [boost] Re: Customer Friendlier Boost Installation > > "Hendrik Schober" <SpamTrap(a)gmx.de> writes: > > | Lars Gullik Bjønnes <larsbj(a)gullik.net> wrote: > >> David Abrahams <dave(a)boost-consulting.com> writes: > >> > >> | We never wanted to be the sole province of experts. We always wanted > >> | widespread usage. If you want to be a member of an exclusive > >> | "experts" club this is the wrong place to find it. > >> > >> Sure. But there, imho, must be a difference expected between _users_ > >> of the libraries, and _installers_ (or packagers) of the libraries. > > > > > | How so? Shall people employ an administrator to > | install the libs they want to check out? > > No. But IMHO it should be expect that it is a bit harder to install > (and in this case it is build as well) the library than use it. > > So: Create an windows installer and then the user can use that. > > -- > Lgb > > _______________________________________________ > Unsubscribe & other changes: > http://lists.boost.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/boost

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Re: [boost] [function_type] Tag types documentation
by Dave Gomboc 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

> The Function Type library uses tag types to represent a type's > attributation, such as its calling convention or wether it is > variadic. > > Tags that represent the values of a single property are called > property tags. These tags can be used to determine whether one > property of a type has a particular value. > > is_function< T, variadic > > is_function< T, default_call > > > Does it work? It's better than before. I still think you shouldn't mix "uses tag types" (plural) with "a type's attributation" (singular), but you're the author. ;-) I'd still go with "to represent attributations of types", similar to how I wrote that line previously. Oh, also, fix the spelling of "whether". > I have. Try these use cases: > > // a remove constness (of the pointee) from a member > function pointer type T > function_type<signature<T>,tag<signature<T>,non_const> >::type > > // shortcut: > function_type<T, non_const >::type > > or > > // create a (possibly decorated) function type's > variadic version > function_type<signature<T>,tag<signature<T>,variadic> >::type > > // shortcut: > function_type<T, variadic >::type Is manipulating these using MPL containers too much hassle for too little benefit? If <T, nonvariadic, variadic, variadic, nonvariadic, variadic> is really going to be the same as <T, variadic, nonvariadic, variadic>, then even testing for equivalence between tags becomes somewhat of a chore. > Well, we /could/ only allow overriding only in this very > context, however, it > would make things inconsistent and more complicated to explain, IMO. > I don't see a problem in allowing it either, because most > error situations are > pretty obvious > > a = 1; > a = 2; // <-- should this line fail to compile? No, your example above is (roughly speaking) X = tag<T, nonvariadic>; X = tag<T, variadic>; Which sequentially assigns different values to X. By writing tag<T, variadic, nonvariadic>, to my eyes you're writing something akin to "a = 1 and a = 2 (at the same time)" [One example in runtime-C++ is calling f(a=1, a=2), which does not at all guarantee that a=2 at the end of this expression! But a guru may come up with a better example.] Then, you specify a rule that says "If I assign more than one value at the same time, I really mean the last one", which is different behaviour than runtime-C++ gives. That's why this asymmetric disambiguation behaviour feels awkward to me. > plus 'tag' seldom has to be used directly by the user, anyway. > > Further there is the technical side of the story: > > tag<A,B> > > only describes a type (talking C++ type system context here) > and thus does not trigger a template instantiation. So the > error message you get would probably involve a lot of trace > (to where its PoI is) output and be questionable useful, > because of this. Explicit instantiation of templates is our friend in such cases. This is nothing new to template users. Dave

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REQUEST: Sorry for the inatentiveness..
by Rene Rivera 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

All, Over the past two weeks I've been rather inattentive on the Boost list, actually all the lists. This was was because I was busy unexpectedly resurrecting my web, email, and cvs server after I came back from vacation. So I'm asking for a bit of help... If there's some particular email or other business I should pay attention to please point it out to me. Thanks. -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim - Grafik/jabber.org

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Boost regression notification (2005-06-30)
by Douglas Gregor 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Boost regression test failures ------------------------------ Report time: 2005-06-30T05:35:19Z This report lists all regression test failures on release platforms. WARNING: The following libraries have failing regression tests but do not have a maintainer on file. 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[BGL] [msvc] Warnings in pending/relaxed_heap.hpp
by Jürgen Hunold 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hi ! I'm getting e:\libraries\boost_cvs\boost\pending\relaxed_heap.hpp(49) : warning C4355: 'this' : used in base member initializer list when compiling some files using the BGL. Nasty full output zipped attached. A quick and dirty fix is attached. But I have the feeling there might be a better way to solve this. Comments ? Yours, Jürgen -- * Dipl.-Math. Jürgen Hunold ! Institut für Verkehrswesen, Eisenbahnbau * voice: ++49 511 762-2529 ! und -betrieb, Universität Hannover * fax : ++49 511 762-3001 ! Appelstrasse 9a, D-30167 Hannover * hunold(a)ive.uni-hannover.de ! www.ive.uni-hannover.de

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Re: [boost] RegEx VC6.0 error LNK2005 errors
by Alexander Balaev 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hello, Sorry I couldn't find how to reply on the message. Actually the first workaround worked for me. I needed to place first #define BOOST_MSVC into the *right* spot. I think I misread the post initially... I will try to find if the second workaround is good although it will be hard - too many headers. Thanks much for the help, Alex. > I found the workaraund at > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/2509074 > but it doesn't work for me > > Could some one please help me on this.... > MSVC6.0 SP6, Window XP with the latest MS SDK. > Thanks in advance, Alex. This has been reported a couple of times, but no one has ever come up with a test case that I can reproduce, I found this: http://www.unixwiz.net/archives/2004/11/ which looks like it may be a solution, but whatever the problem is, it's of Microsoft's making and not ours. Hoping this helps, John. Thank you again, Alex. mailto:alexbalaev@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Boost-bugs] [ boost-Feature Requests-1232586 ] Please add support for PDSK compilers for x64 and IA64
by SourceForge.net 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Feature Requests item #1232586, was opened at 2005-07-05 00:59 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=357586&aid=1232586&group_… Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Please add support for PDSK compilers for x64 and IA64 Initial Comment: MS Platform SDK for Windows 2003 Server SP1 contains command line compilers for x64 and IA64. It would be nice to have bjam toolsets for these compilers. Submitted by: lexeyo(a)gmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=357586&aid=1232586&group_… ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477&alloc_id=16492&op=click _______________________________________________ Boost-bugs mailing list Boost-bugs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/boost-bugs

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Interfaces Library, a macro less implementation
by Joel de Guzman 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hi, I like the idea behind the Interfaces Library: http://www.kangaroologic.com/interfaces/ I need one now. I dislike the macro-based Interface Definition Language, however. I find it utterly ugly especially because interfaces should be immediately readable. IMO, the macro-based IDL is not. Here's another take (prototype) at a macro less implementation of the interfaces (see attached). Tested on VC7.1, g++ and Comeau. The biggest advantage is that the same C++ member function interface syntax is retained. This makes it very easy to understand and even allows documentation extraction tools like Doxygen to work as usual. A disadvantage is that there is some unavoidable redundancy-- a lesser price to pay, IMO. Here's a client side example: struct foo : member_function<int(int)> {}; struct bar : member_function<int(char const*)> {}; // a baz "interface" class baz : interface<foo, bar> { public: template <class T> baz(T& x) : construct(x) {} int foo(int x) { return this->call< ::foo>(x); } int bar(char const* x) { return this->call< ::bar>(x); } }; struct some_baz { int impl(foo, int x) { return x + 1; } int impl(bar, char const* s) { return std::strlen(s); } }; struct another_baz { int impl(foo, int x) { return x - 1; } int impl(bar, char const* s) { return -std::strlen(s); } }; int main() { some_baz f; baz p = f; std::cout << "p.foo(3) = " << p.foo(3) << std::endl; std::cout << "p.bar(\"hi\") = " << p.bar("hi") << std::endl; another_baz f2; p = f2; std::cout << "p.foo(3) = " << p.foo(3) << std::endl; std::cout << "p.bar(\"hi\") = " << p.bar("hi") << std::endl; } Regards, -- Joel de Guzman http://www.boost-consulting.com http://spirit.sf.net #include <iostream> #include <string> #include <cstring> #include <boost/spirit/fusion/sequence/tuple.hpp> #include <boost/spirit/fusion/sequence/at.hpp> using namespace boost::fusion; template <class Sig> struct member_function; template <class RT, class A0> struct member_function<RT(A0)> { typedef RT return_type; typedef A0 arg0_type; typedef RT(*pointer_type)(void*, A0); }; template <class F0, class F1> struct interface { typedef tuple< typename F0::pointer_type , typename F1::pointer_type> vtable_type; template <class T> struct functions { template <typename F> struct forward { typedef typename F::return_type return_type; typedef typename F::arg0_type arg0_type; static return_type call(void* p, arg0_type x) { return static_cast<T*>(p)->impl(F(), x); } }; static typename interface<F0, F1>::vtable_type const* table() { static typename interface<F0, F1>::vtable_type vtable( &forward<F0>::call , &forward<F1>::call); return &vtable; // a singleton } }; template <class T> interface(T& x) : vtable(functions<T>::table()) , obj(&x) {} typedef interface<F0, F1> construct; typename boost::fusion::meta::at_c<vtable_type const, 0>::type find(F0) const { return boost::fusion::at<0>(*vtable); } typename boost::fusion::meta::at_c<vtable_type const, 1>::type find(F1) const { return boost::fusion::at<1>(*vtable); } template <typename F> typename F::return_type call(typename F::arg0_type x) { return find(F())(const_cast<void*>(obj), x); } vtable_type const* vtable; void const* obj; }; /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// // // Client Code // /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// struct foo : member_function<int(int)> {}; struct bar : member_function<int(char const*)> {}; // a baz "interface" class baz : interface<foo, bar> { public: template <class T> baz(T& x) : construct(x) {} int foo(int x) { return this->call< ::foo>(x); } int bar(char const* x) { return this->call< ::bar>(x); } }; struct some_baz { int impl(foo, int x) { return x + 1; } int impl(bar, char const* s) { return std::strlen(s); } }; struct another_baz { int impl(foo, int x) { return x - 1; } int impl(bar, char const* s) { return -std::strlen(s); } }; int main() { some_baz f; baz p = f; std::cout << "p.foo(3) = " << p.foo(3) << std::endl; std::cout << "p.bar(\"hi\") = " << p.bar("hi") << std::endl; another_baz f2; p = f2; std::cout << "p.foo(3) = " << p.foo(3) << std::endl; std::cout << "p.bar(\"hi\") = " << p.bar("hi") << std::endl; }

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Co-author?
by David Abrahams 05 Jul '05

05 Jul '05

Hi Eric, I'm thinking that somebody who knows what users need has to write the Boost books. I'm a little wary of co-authoring again, but I have a lot of confidence in your ability to communicate and have been thinking of asking you about it for some time. I know you're on vacation, but I see you're still active on the lists, so I thought I'd plant the seed of the idea and see what grows there. So, what do you think about writing a series of books on Boost? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com

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