13 Aug
                
                    2004
                
            
            
                13 Aug
                
                '04
                
            
            
            
        
    
                10:12 p.m.
            
        In this particular case, I think you could make a good argument that these traits (for iterators and ranges) are really the same, semantically. Maybe that solves some problems? I'm not sure I see how. For example iterator traits don't have an iterator. . . . . . . . . . . . . -Thorsten