On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:32 AM, Adam Wulkiewicz <adam.wulkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd like to be a review manager of QVM, however I don't have enough free time at the moment. I predict that the situation should be different for around a month or two. So if until that time you didn't find someone else I'd volunteer.

Thanks Adam! Emil

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Erik H <ice.rikh@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Emil,

Apologies for being yet another random support requester :) I use GLM <http://www.g-truc.net/project-0016.html#menu> here and there and boost quite a bit; replacing the GLM dependency with boost::QVM is therefore attractive, assuming it is approved. As a GLM user, I have a couple questions:

Ha, I didn't mean to imply that I'm annoyed by support questions. :)

Would I have to use QVM with my own matrix type if I want to feed a QVM matrix to glUniformMatrix4fv without a temp copy? With GLM, I do this using, for example, glUniformMatrix4fv(fooLoc, 1, GL_FALSE, glm::value_ptr(fooMatrix)).

If a matrix type stores its values as anything but a 1-dimensional array in column-major order, you can't (portably) feed it into glUniformMatrix4fv without a temporary; at least it'd require a cast, which in theory may not work on some platform. The solution if you use QVM is to define your own matrix type that stores the values as an array internally, which would let you pass it to OpenGL without a temp: struct gl_mat4 { float el[16]; }; Then you specialize the m_traits type from the QVM library to enable the appropriate matrix operations for objects of type gl_mat4: template <> struct m_traits<gl_mat4> { static int const rows = 4; static int const cols = 4; typedef float scalar_type; template <int R,int C> static scalar_type r( gl_mat4 const & m ) { return m.el[C*4+R]; } template <int R,int C> static scalar_type & w( gl_mat4 & m ) { return m.el[C*4+R]; } static scalar_type ir( int r, int c, gl_mat4 const & m ) { return m.el[c*4+r]; } static scalar_type & iw( int r, int c, gl_mat4 & m ) { return m.el[c*4+r]; } }; Now if you want to pass a gl_mat4 to glUniformMatrix4fv, you just do m.el, yet you get all matrix operations automatically working for gl_mat4 objects, including if you mix them with other matrix types, e.g. the ones that come from the 3D engine you use, or the physics simulation library you use, etc. HTH, Emil

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Peter Dimov <lists@pdimov.com> wrote:

Emil Dotchevski wrote:

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If a matrix type stores its values as anything but a 1-dimensional array in column-major order, you can't (portably) feed it into glUniformMatrix4fv without a temporary; at least it'd require a cast, which in theory may not work on some platform.

Actually, a two-dimensional array is guaranteed to be laid out linearly in memory. The rest of the message still stands though.

You need a cast, and my understanding is that that makes your code not portable because it violates the strict aliasing rule. This is purely theoretical, obviously, in practice it'll most likely work. Anyway, if you want to use a 2D array and cast it to 1D array, there is nothing in the QVM library that would get in your way. -- Emil Dotchevski Reverge Studios, Inc. http://www.revergestudios.com/reblog/index.php?n=ReCode

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Emil Dotchevski <emil@revergelabs.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Erik H <ice.rikh@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Emil,

Apologies for being yet another random support requester :) I use GLM <http://www.g-truc.net/project-0016.html#menu> here and there and boost quite a bit; replacing the GLM dependency with boost::QVM is therefore attractive, assuming it is approved. As a GLM user, I have a couple questions:

Ha, I didn't mean to imply that I'm annoyed by support questions. :)

...

Would I have to use QVM with my own matrix type if I want to feed a QVM matrix to glUniformMatrix4fv without a temp copy? With GLM, I do this using, for example, glUniformMatrix4fv(fooLoc, 1, GL_FALSE, glm::value_ptr(fooMatrix)).

If a matrix type stores its values as anything but a 1-dimensional array in column-major order, you can't (portably) feed it into glUniformMatrix4fv without a temporary; at least it'd require a cast, which in theory may not work on some platform.

The solution if you use QVM is to define your own matrix type that stores the values as an array internally, which would let you pass it to OpenGL without a temp:

struct gl_mat4 { float el[16]; };

Then you specialize the m_traits type from the QVM library to enable the appropriate matrix operations for objects of type gl_mat4:

template <> struct m_traits<gl_mat4> { static int const rows = 4; static int const cols = 4; typedef float scalar_type;

template <int R,int C> static scalar_type r( gl_mat4 const & m ) { return m.el[C*4+R]; } template <int R,int C> static scalar_type & w( gl_mat4 & m ) { return m.el[C*4+R]; }

static scalar_type ir( int r, int c, gl_mat4 const & m ) { return m.el[c*4+r]; } static scalar_type & iw( int r, int c, gl_mat4 & m ) { return m.el[c*4+r]; } };

Now if you want to pass a gl_mat4 to glUniformMatrix4fv, you just do m.el, yet you get all matrix operations automatically working for gl_mat4 objects, including if you mix them with other matrix types, e.g. the ones that come from the 3D engine you use, or the physics simulation library you use, etc.

HTH, Emil

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Thanks for the comprehensive response! That's awesome! It works as you say with GL, and additionally I had no problem using the same tricks to make a boost::numpy view of QVM matrix :) QVM should be a shoo-in, in my opinion. -Erik