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From: David Abrahams (david.abrahams_at_[hidden])
Date: 2002-01-01 19:29:08


This message is concerned with building the dependency graph. That job includes the generation of intermediate targets (e.g. when building an exe fromsources, the object files are intermediate) and the invoking of rules which establish dependency relationships and build actions.

I keep finding myself with the need to create new target types out of existing ones. For example, a python extension (PYD) is a kind of shared library. Conceptually, target types form a sort of inheritance hierarchy in my mind:
+--------+ +--------+ 'Link' +------------+
| source | 'Archive'..+ object +..............>| executable |
+----+---+ : +---+----+ : +------+-----+
| : | : |
+-------+----+ +----------+-+----------+ : +----+----+
| | | : | | V | |
+----------+ +--+--+Asm +--+--+ : +--+--+ +----+---+ +--+--+ +--+--+
| compiled | | ASM |...>| OBJ | :...>| LIB | | IMPLIB | | DLL | | EXE |
+----+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +--------+ +--+--+ +-----+
| ^ ^ ^ ^ |
+---+--+ : : : : +--+--+
| | : : : : | PYD |
+--+--+ +-+-+ : : : : +-----+
| CPP | | C +....:..........: :
+--+--+ +---+ 'C' : :
: : :
:................:..........:
'C++'

The ALL_CAPS names represent concrete target types. The dotted lines above represent rules that can be invoked to build one type of target from another.

Given a "main target" and a set of "source targets", a simple algorithm fordetermining the chain of targets and rules might be based on finding the shortest path in the above graph, traversing inheritance and build action links, from the source types to the target types. Some open questions:

1. Some rules combine multiple sources into a single target (e.g. Archive, Link). How does the algorithm decide when targets are combined?

2. It seems to me that in general, a toolset may change the dotted lines inthe above graph. The simplest example I can think of is that of Win32 compilers that use response files, resulting in the following:

+--------+ +--------+ Cmd +=====+ Link +------------+
| source | 'Archive'..+ object +....>[ RSP ].....>| executable |
+----+---+ : +---+----+ +=====+ : +------+-----+
| : | : |
+-------+----+ +----------+-+-------------+ : +----+----+
| | | : | | V | |
+----------+ +--+--+Asm +--+--+ : +--+--+ +----+---+ +--+--+ +--+--+
| compiled | | ASM |...>| OBJ | :...>| LIB | | IMPLIB | | DLL | | EXE |
+----+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +--------+ +--+--+ +-----+
| ^ ^ ^ ^ |
+---+--+ : : : : +--+--+
| | : : : : | PYD |
+--+--+ +-+-+ : : : : +-----+
| CPP | | C +....:..........: :
+--+--+ +---+ 'C' : :
: : :
:................:..........:
'C++'
 

Other examples would be front-end C++ compilers that can't produce object files directly, but need to run some 'C' compiler as the back end. Should wetry to provide this flexibility in a general way, or does it make sense toask these toolsets to simply implement the rules in terms of sub-rules, aswe do now for response file handling? The latter approach keeps the basic graph structure fixed, but allows arbitrarily fine granularity to be introduced into each construction rule. I am not certain whether the limitation of a fixed graph structure is acceptable. Thoughts?

One thought might be to use the "class" facility in tools/build/new/class.jam to make each toolset a separate class with overridable methods which generate targets from sources. So, the "method" EXE<-source would be invoked to build an executable from sources. The default implementation would in turn invoke OBJ<-{type} where {type} is the concrete source type for each source file, and then Link to build the executable from the resulting objects. The Win32 response file toolset base class could implement the outer 'Link'rule by calling the 'Cmd' rule and the 'inner-link' rule (or something).

A scheme like this one ties the structure of the dependency graph to the toolset. I am not sure whether that's acceptable, since we're talking about allowing orthogonal features like STLPort and Python (with multiple version selection). Does it make sense for so much control to reside with the toolset, or do these other features need a way to intervene?

-Dave

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<DIV><FONT size=2>This message is concerned with building the dependency graph.
That job includes the generation of intermediate targets (e.g. when building an
exe from sources, the object files are intermediate) and the invoking of rules
which establish dependency relationships and build actions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I keep finding myself with the need to create new target types
out of existing ones. For example, a python extension (PYD) is a kind of shared
library. Conceptually, target types form a sort of inheritance hierarchy inmy
mind:</FONT></DIV><PRE> +--------+ +--------+ 'Link' +------------+
| source | 'Archive'..+ object +..............&gt;| executable |
+----+---+ : +---+----+ : +------+-----+
| : | : |
+-------+----+ +----------+-+----------+ : +----+----+
| | | : | | V | |
+----------+ +--+--+Asm +--+--+ : +--+--+ +----+---+ +--+--+ +--+--+
| compiled | | ASM |...&gt;| OBJ | :...&gt;| LIB | | IMPLIB | | DLL | | EXE |
+----+-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +-----+ +--------+ +--+--+ +-----+
| ^ ^ ^ ^ |
+---+--+ : : : : +--+--+
| | : : : : | PYD |
+--+--+ +-+-+ : : : : +-----+
| CPP | | C +....:..........: :
+--+--+ +---+ 'C' : :
: : :
:................:..........:
'C++'
</PRE>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The ALL_CAPS names represent concrete target types. Thedotted
lines above represent rules that can be invoked to build one type of targetfrom
another. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Given a "main target" and a set of "source targets",&nbsp;a
simple algorithm for determining the chain of targets and rules might be based
on finding the shortest path in the above graph, traversing inheritance and
build action links, from the source types to the target types. Some open
questions</FONT><FONT size=2>:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>1. Some rules combine multiple sources into a single target
(e.g. Archive, Link). How does the algorithm decide when targets are
combined?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2. It seems to me that in general, a toolset may changethe
dotted lines in the above graph. The simplest example I can think of is that of
Win32 compilers that use response files, resulting in the
following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--------+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--------+ Cmd +=====+ Link +------------+&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | source
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 'Archive'..+ object +....&gt;[ RSP
].....&gt;| executable |&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+----+---+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
: +---+----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +=====+ :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+------+-----+&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-------+----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+----------+-+-------------+&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+----+----+&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp; V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +----------+&nbsp; +--+--+Asm +--+--+ :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--+--+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +----+---+&nbsp; +--+--+&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--+--+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | compiled |&nbsp; | ASM |...&gt;| OBJ | :...&gt;|
LIB |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | IMPLIB |&nbsp; | DLL |&nbsp;&nbsp; | EXE
|<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +----+-----+&nbsp; +-----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +-----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--------+&nbsp; +--+--+&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-----+<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ^&nbsp;
^&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ^&nbsp;
^&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +---+--+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+--+--+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
| PYD |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; +--+--+
+-+-+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
+-----+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; | CPP |
| C +....:..........:&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp; +--+--+ +---+ 'C'&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:................:..........:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
'C++'&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Other examples would be front-end C++ compilers that can't
produce object files directly, but need to run some 'C' compiler as the back
end. Should we try to provide this flexibility in a general way, or does itmake
sense to ask these toolsets to simply implement the rules in terms of sub-rules,
as we do now for response file handling? The latter approach keeps the basic
graph structure fixed, but allows arbitrarily fine granularity to be introduced
into each construction rule. I am not certain whether the limitation of a fixed
graph structure is acceptable. Thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>One thought might be to use the "class" facility in
tools/build/new/class.jam to&nbsp;make each toolset a separate class with
overridable methods which generate targets from sources. So, the "method"
EXE&lt;-source would be invoked to build an executable from sources. The default
implementation would in turn invoke OBJ&lt;-{type} where {type} is the concrete
source type for each source file, and then Link to build the executable from the
resulting objects. The Win32 response file toolset base class could implement
the outer 'Link' rule by calling the 'Cmd' rule and the 'inner-link' rule (or
something).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>A scheme like this one ties the structure of the dependency
graph to the toolset. I am not sure whether that's acceptable, since we're
talking about allowing orthogonal features like STLPort and Python (with
multiple version selection). Does it make sense for so much control to reside
with the toolset, or do these other features need a way to
intervene?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-Dave</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>===================================================<BR>&nbsp;
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href="http://users.rcn.com/abrahams/resume.html"><FONT
size=2>http://users.rcn.com/abrahams/resume.html></A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=2>http://www.boost.org></A><FONT size=2>)
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