Re: [Boost-users] Boost thread conflicts with MFC

Subject: Re: [Boost-users] Boost thread conflicts with MFC
From: John Wilkinson (jwilkinson_at_[hidden])
Date: 2009-04-09 16:29:46

I've found WTL to be very useful in getting a GUI app up and running.  The company that I work for uses it for a fairly large commercial application.  It's a relatively light-weight wrapper for the Windows GUI.  

WTL is open source, and has been for several years:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/wtl/ 

There is a support list on Yahoo! Groups: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wtl/  It has a fair amount of sample source, and some extensions.  There are also some WTL resources available on CodeProject.com.  

Disclosure: I am the moderator of the Yahoo group, and a member of the project on SourceForge.  Development activity on the project has been fairly low for a while, and I'm not sure what the intent is for a new version (the latest is coming up on two years old). 

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: boost-users-bounces_at_[hidden] [mailto:boost-users-
> bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Emil Dotchevski
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: boost-users_at_[hidden]
> Subject: Re: [Boost-users] Boost thread conflicts with MFC
> 
> On a couple of occasions I've seen teams abandon MFC for WTL, though
> the lack of documentation and the fact that it's not officially
> supported by Microsoft is a problem.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Robert Ramey <ramey_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> > Well, I guess I'm just an amazing guy.
> >
> > Actually, I'm not all that happy with MFC.  But whenver I consider
> > something another alternative, I find them lacking.  MFC is a huge
> > body of code which is (mostly) well documented.  I typically need
> > and application to support some other project.  Recent examples
> > have been a GUI interface to and embedded system.  My customers
> > expect this "tail end" application to be doable in say two weeks or
> > so. And they want it to "look like" a "standard" windows app including
> > dockable tool bars, menus, email and web connectivity, support
> > for things like file drag and drop.  etc.
> >
> > The only thing I see that can do this besides MFC is Visual Basic.
> > I haven't looked at C#.  But those have even bigger downsides.
> >
> > As I said before, I have a lot of complaints about it, but I don't
> > seen anything available that is nearly as comprehensive for
> > windows application development.
> >
> > Robert Ramey
> >
> > peter_foelsche_at_[hidden] wrote:
> >> last time I developed a GUI application for windows (in 1998),
> >> I was using C++ and Win32.
> >
> > That might explain it.
> >
> >>
> >> We tried MFC and it just did not do it.
> >> I remember sick solutions for sick problems in MFC, like sending
> >> messages to be called back again later.
> >>
> >> I simply wrote some C++ wrappers for win32 calls.
> >> And I joined these wrappers into base class and member class
> >> relationships.
> >> The resulting code was very clear, short and maintainable.
> >> It contained an activex control container (written in C++) -- not
> >> using ATL.
> >>
> >> I'm amazed that there are still C++ programmers, which don't know
> >> about how to wrap a fallible Win32 resource into a C++ class and how
> >> to chain such classes into base and member class relationships.
> >>
> >> I'm amazed that there still seem to be C++ programmers,
> >> which don't know how to abort the construction of an object.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: boost-users-bounces_at_[hidden]
> >> [mailto:boost-users-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of Robert
> >> Ramey
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:17
> >> To: boost-users_at_[hidden]
> >> Subject: Re: [Boost-users] Boost thread conflicts with MFC
> >>
> >> aaaaa .... what do you use instead for development of a C++ windows
> >> GUI
> >> program?
> >>
> >> Robert Ramey
> >>
> >> peter_foelsche_at_[hidden] wrote:
> >>> It amazes me, that there are still people working with MFC.
> >>> It does not make much sense to use MFC, after C++ Exception Handling
> >>> was introduced in 1995.
> >>> After C++ Exception Handling was introduced one can use constructors
> >>> to allocate fallible resources.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Emil Dotchevski
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