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Subject: Re: [Boost-users] [serialization] class versioning changesin boost 1.42
From: Robert Ramey (ramey_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-02-25 11:49:50
Vladimir Prus wrote:
> Robert Ramey wrote:
>
>>> In that case, the issue David encountered is unambiguously a bug in
>>> Boost.Serialization, and should be fixed in a future version of
>>> Boost.
>>
>> The version # was envisioned as a small integer. All the examples
>> tests and demos used this. The problem comes about because it was
>> unanticipated that someone would like to include actual data (ie a
>> date in this case) in a version #. Note that this is the first time
>> in 9 years that this has come up.
>
> Well, I assume that most folks who use Boost.Serialization don't post
> here to report what version scheme they have used. So, I suggest you
> don't make broad conclusions based on the number of reports.
I would expect that people running across problems with the scheme
would post here. So I think it's correct that this hasn't been a
problem up until now.
> If you have changed the number of bytes used to store the class
> version, and you do *not* store boost version number in archive, then
> how can
> 1.42 read an archive created by 1.41 -- even assuming the classes
> being serialized did not change themself.
This should be clear from reading the documentation. If it's not, we
can enhance the documentation. It's very simple. Each class is assigned a
version # starting with 0. When a new member is added to the class
the version # is changed with BOOST_CLASS_VERSION(name, #).
The signature for loading is:
void load(Archive & ar, T & t, const version){
ar >> m_x;
...
if(version >= 1)
ar >> m_z;
}
in addition, there is a serialization library version returned
with get_library_version. This is used internally by the
library to address changes in serialization of primitives
and other types for which class information is not kept
in the archive. I believe that this version # is now up to 4.
The class version # is the version # of the class - NOT boost,
not the application, not anything else.
>>> If not, how do you make changes
>>> to the archive format (e.g. the change David found in 1.42.0)
>>> without breaking old archives?
In this case, David overloaded the version # in a way I never anticipated.
Their usage of the version number presumed a 32 bit integer. binary
archives only use 16 bits. So their change would make it impossible
for them to use binary archives. This issue doesn't show up in text
archives since a variable length string is used for integers. I made
the change to detect exactly this type of unintended usage which
would make serializations non-portable. Obviously I did this a few
years too late.
>> This is described in the documentation. The version # is maintained
>> on a class basis and is completely independent of any other number
>> such as program or boost version. A little reflection should make
>> it clear why it pretty much has to be this way.
>
> Unless you promise and document that format used by boost.serialize
> will never change, it seems like you also have to include the version
> number for the archive format itself.
it's in the documentation as get_library_version(). So far I don't think
any user has ever had to call this function. We do call it in the
implementation
of serialization for collections. I think the need for this arose in
the implementation of fast array serialization which made
a "shortcut" through the normal procedure.
>>> How would an application ever be able to exchange data with older,
>>> deployed, versions of itself, without this capability?
>>
>> Again, a little reflection will make it clear that an older version
>> of
>> a program can't anticipate changes in a subsequent version. I'm
>> sorry - it's just logically not possible. Think about it.
> Assuming the use classes are not changed, why program built with 1.41
> cannot read archive created by 1.42?
It can.
In this particular case, the situation is that a program built with 1.42
cannot read an archive created by 1.41
Robert Ramey
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