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From: Aleksey Gurtovoy (agurtovoy_at_[hidden])
Date: 2004-08-02 05:09:16

Victor A. Wagner Jr. writes:
> At Sunday 2004-08-01 16:37, you wrote:
> >Victor A. Wagner Jr. writes:
> > > I have NO idea what criteria build_monitor uses to killing
> > > processes,
> >
> >Two conditions:
> >
> >1) They have to be spawned by 'bjam.exe' executable.
> how do you know?

By recursively obtaining their parent processes using
and checking if any of them is named 'bjam.exe'.

> >2) They have to be running for more than 5 minutes or show an
> > error dialog window.
> these other things run 100% of the time on my system. in the
> middle of the night they may even go for 5 minutes with NO I/O.

In case I wasn't clear, *both* of the above conditions have to hold for
the process to become a candidate for termination.

> > > but when I awoke this morning, it had managed to kill: the dnet
> > > "run in the background" ORG process, Pirch (my IRC client), a
> > > proxy that lets me get dcc's through my hardware firewall,
> > > Trillian (the instant message program), SpyBot resident.....
> > > I think you get the picture.
> >
> >How did you determine that it's build_monitor that caused all
> >that? While there is always a possibility of a program having bugs,
> >it's hard to believe that this particular one started to misbehave
> >all of a sudden after a year of stable work and no changes to the
> >source code.
> >
> > > this thing just walked through my system like a hoard of Vandals
> > > (or was it Visigoths). whatever
> >
> >I'm sorry to hear about the whole thing, but let's get to the roots
> >of it. First of all, why do you think it was build_monitor? Second,
> >what operating system are you running?
> 1) My system has run flawlessly for over a year also and two days ago was
> when I first installed monitoring.....
> the first time it ran a bunch of stuff wasn't working in the morning, but
> I'd been very tired when I went to bed and figured MAYBE I'd shut them down
> (unlikely as I _never_ _NEVER_ shut down the dnet client)...but I let it
> go... I made some changes to so it would work better here
> then manually ran the system that problems. I let it run
> automatically again overnight and "bam" all these things that are ONLY
> started at login time and NEVER touched by me are missing again....
> the _logical_ place to look is at "what's new?"... what's new
> is -monitored on the test line in my script.

Understood. Well, there is a slight chance that the layout of
PROCESS_BASIC_INFORMATION structure on WindowsXP is different from the one
on Windows 2000 (the stucture is "for internal use"), and that could cause
the kind of reckless behavior you've seen.

> btw, this morning I also noticed that build_monitor had it's own window
> open and was spewing out TONS or data to it... is that normal?

Yep. It simply logs everything it does.

> I took out the teststreams test (I think) but this afternoon's run had
> already started... but I chose ignore when the modal dialog (may the .....)
> popped up. btw, tho my log clearly shows them sent to the ftp site,
> they're not on the website yet... the date is Sunday the time 21:30:03 in
> the xml file

There are there now.

> I'd be more than happy to help find this as any problems in running the
> regression tests will just mean less folks willing to run them.

Thank you.

> if you get
> back to me quickly, I can turn on the "-monitored" again... the run starts
> in just over 2 hours (on the 1/2 hour) (still missing teststreams at this
> point).

Let us test on Windows XP locally first.

> 2) WinXPpro sp1


Aleksey Gurtovoy
MetaCommunications Engineering

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