[boost] Re: TR2 and C++0x heads up

From: Andrei Alexandrescu (See Website For Email) (SeeWebsiteForEmail_at_[hidden])
Date: 2005-04-27 16:14:49

David Abrahams wrote:
> Maybe because Robert was listing points upon which the proposal didn't
> fare well but that he thought were worthy of consideration?  You're
> not helping your case at all by claiming everything points to bias.
> It just looks paranoid.

By the way, who was it who just called and hung up??? :oD

> Maybe, not but it's not a long way from what you *actually wrote* to
> "evil spirits."  Starting from "conflict of interest" connected to
> lobbying and voting and then proceeding to a suggestion that people
> are claiming something they don't "really really believe" and
> "convenient" forgetting of crucial facts, there's a lot in there to
> take as disparaging.

Yeah, "conflict of interest" isn't the word because there's not a real 
"interest" there, but rather a mere subjective opinion. But then let me 
ask this again: if binary compatibility is assigned such a weight on 
shared_ptr, then why isn't it a concern for other obvious candidates in 
the standard library, such as strings and vectors? Shouldn't we measure 
those guys by the same measure? Again, binary compatibility is a very 
useful feature, but it should only be assigned so much importance.

> You bet it ain't proper, whatever syntagm means.  What the heck's a
> syntagm?

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>>Library design and appreciation is subjective; that makes it hard to
>>stay unbiased towards a particular design. I know I am biased
>>myself, albeit not to the point of being unreasonable. 
> 
> Think again.  Your last post was unreasonable.
> 
>>Naturally I'd believe others might be as well, and I don't think I
>>dispense offense in saying that.
> 
> Whether you dispense offense is in the ear of the listener, and I'm
> hearing it.

Maybe you are particularly sensitive towards yours truly.

> Absolutely correct.  As I said, you can't design that out of the
> system, so you'd better learn to work with it.

I think that is fine. Actually I perfectly realize I am lobbying right 
now, and having a subjective opinion...

Andrei