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From: Hendrik Schober (SpamTrap_at_[hidden])
Date: 2005-05-26 03:46:59

David Bergman <davidb_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> David Abrahams wrote:
> > Oliver Kullmann <O.Kullmann_at_[hidden]> writes:
> >
> > > But for these "millions of C++ users" Boost is not the right choice.
> >
> > It should be.
> Oliver was talking about those millions of C++ users that "see no benefit in
> smart pointers", "see MPL as black art" etc. [...]

  I would like to see boost especially appeal
  to those.

> [...] I want Boost to remain a choice for C++ experts.

  IIRC, boost was founded as a means to play
  with what should go into the next std lib.
  IMHO the std lib isn't only for experts, but
  for everyone. So should be boost.

> Most of those "millions of C++ users" that Oliver is refering to are
> actually quite junior C developers who have been forced to use some C++
> keywords and OOP in order to exploit MFC instead of raw Win32 programming.
> And those developers already have MFC and ATL, and would probably only use
> 'shared_ptr' from Boost.

  Good start! That's how I sneaked boost in here:
  I demonstrated a bug in the home-grown smart
  pointer and pleaded for using boost's.

> What I am saying is that it would not be unreasonable to expect the targeted
> developers to actually type 'bjam', and perhaps even set the proper
> environment variables.

  If they are targeted, and it's unreasonable
  to expect this from them, it should be made

> I do not think we have to flirt with the masses - developers that would not
> use the facilities found in Boost anyway - in order to position it better
> for incorporation into future C++ standardizations.

  I very strongly disagree.

> /David Bergman


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