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From: Tushar (tushar_at_[hidden])
Date: 2005-09-30 02:52:30

On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 20:06, Arkadiy Vertleyb wrote:
> "Andy Little" <andy_at_[hidden]> wrote
> > The builtin GUI is a major reason for Java's Success.
> I think the major reason for Java's (commersial) success is that it has
> _commersial_ forces behind it. As opposed to C++, that is mainly moved
> forward by academics and enthusiasts.
Well, commercial people are happy with something that works and has
lower cost. It was windows, Java and now may be C#, Linux . So I
disagree with u here.
> If we were to make C++ commersially successfull, we would now be developing
> threads, all kinds of networking, and database access, like crazy. But
> since we are here mostly to have fun, gain an experience, write articles,
> etc., we are busy with MPL and PP, lambdas and binders, parsers and regular
> expressions, foreach and typeof, etc., etc., etc. Things that are cool, and
> useful for language development, but hardly ever considered when somebody
> has to decide in which language to implement a distributed concurrent
> system.
I completely agree with u here. Its completeness of Java that I like the
most. Its really awkward to write half project in C++ and half project
that is not supported by lib in C.
        But may be u are right. Its also the kind of community. GUI can be made
in C++, but before that, required thing is to write components.
Components which are neither great nor very difficult to write, but are
useful in day to day business.
> (I hope nobody gets offended. The above libraries are provided for example
> only, and without any hint to their relative importance)
> As for GUI, the last time I saw a portable one, it sucked. Yes, I admit, it
> was 5 years ago, and it was AWT, so maybe thins changed drammatically? Are
> modern GUI libraries really able to produce _decent_ cross-platform GUI?
> Regards,
> Arkadiy
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