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From: David Abrahams (dave_at_[hidden])
Date: 2006-06-19 12:00:01

Jeff Garland <jeff_at_[hidden]> writes:

> David Abrahams wrote:
>> Jeff Garland <jeff_at_[hidden]> writes:
>>> David Abrahams wrote:
>>>> Jeff Garland <jeff_at_[hidden]> writes:
>>> Two reasons. That requires a software upgrade including data conversion
>>> to new wiki software. Second, based on my discussion with other wiki
>>> administrators it doesn't stop spammers -- they just register with a
>>> free email address and off they go.
>> Of course a few will do that. But isn't most spam done by automatic
>> webcrawling software that seeks out open wikis and forums? As long as
>> those abound, fewer spammers will bother with the protected one,
>> right?
> Nope, from what I understand the email registration test just doesn't
> work at all unless you want to put a human in the loop on all approvals,
> which prevents the casual update. Remember, we are dealing with folks
> that have hacked hundreds of machines, so a bunch of throwaway email
> addresses isn't a problem for them. A typical 200 page spam attack is
> done from 15-20 different IP addresses with each one spamming at about 1
> page every 5 minutes. The reason they do this slowly is that many
> wiki's added a feature to prevent robo spamming by only allowing a slow
> number of changes per ip per unit time. So the spammers adapted...

In that case, I wonder why we never see spam posts by first-time Boost

>>> Bottom line is that today's systeam takes me about 10 minutes per
>>> day. The only bad part is that it sometimes takes a bit more time
>>> to roll back if I don't happen to be online.
>> As long as you don't mind doing the work, I appreciate it, and of
>> course it's okay with me.
> In my ideal world we would upgrade the software and it would enable
> a group of moderators to trivially manage/revert/stop spam. We'll
> get there at some point, but the solution we have now is working
> well enough and I'm busy enough that I don't plan on pursuing this
> for awhile.


Dave Abrahams
Boost Consulting

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