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Subject: Re: [boost] "boost cold shoulder" (was proposal for #pragma oncesupport)
From: David Bergman (David.Bergman_at_[hidden])
Date: 2009-06-10 11:46:07

We have two factions here:

1. The old conservative, Windows-hating, folks, whose only drive, or
boost, is that they type "boost" quite often.

2. The young pragmatic, "Do What Make Most People Happy", crowd.


PS: I belong to category 1, clearly.


On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Sid Sacek wrote:

> John and Pete,
> I do appreciate your insights into the inner workings of the Boost
> community. I'm not discouraged about the lack of interest in my
> suggestion, but I was somewhat surprised. Boost libraries are one of
> those things that make life better for programming engineers. I
> believed that was the unwritten philosophy behind Boost, to "Make Life
> Better." Extending that philosophical notion, the Boost libraries
> would
> also know about the shortcomings of compilers and operating systems
> and
> help to improve their performance as well, simply because it "makes
> life
> better."
> I suppose I must have been mistaken about that... perhaps not
> everybody
> in the Boost community has feelings of magnanimity and charity.
> -Sid Sacek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boost-bounces_at_[hidden]
> [mailto:boost-bounces_at_[hidden]] On Behalf Of John Phillips
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:15 PM
> To: boost_at_[hidden]
> Subject: Re: [boost] "boost cold shoulder" (was proposal for #pragma
> oncesupport)
> Pete Bartlett wrote:
>>> I brought this topic up a couple of months ago, and I got the "Boost
>>> Cold Shoulder".
>>> You see, I believe the head-honchos here are GCC aficionados and
> don't
>>> care much about Bill Gate's compilers.
>>> I hope you do better than I did.
>>> -Sid Sacek
>> I'm not any sort of honcho here so I hope you don't mind if I
> disagree.
> I'm going to disagree, as well. I just went back into the archives
> and looked at your thread, and I'm confused by your perception of a
> cold
> shoulder. I count 26 posts in the thread over less than 4 days, in a
> discussion that includes some library maintainers and one of the
> moderators. This a reasonably active discussion for around here.
> I agree that no one showed up and said "You have permission, go
> ahead
> and do it." However, as Pete points out, that just isn't the way Boost
> works. All broad action in Boost happens by first building a wide
> consensus in the community. If you notice, when moderators such as
> Dave
> or Beman have ideas for changes, they follow the same process of
> discussion on the list and building consensus. On some occasions they
> don't generate enough interest or agreement and their ideas go by the
> wayside. It isn't always quick, but it is the way Boost works.
> More broadly, please continue contributing. Not every idea you have
> will be what the community does, but getting your ideas in the mix is
> central to how we function. (For the record, some of my ideas have
> gone
> down in flames, or just produced no broad interest, so I know where
> of I
> speak.)
> John
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