Re: [boost] Thoughts for a GUI (Primitives) Library

Subject: Re: [boost] Thoughts for a GUI (Primitives) Library
From: Stefan Seefeld (seefeld_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-09-07 15:41:33

  On 09/07/2010 03:30 PM, OvermindDL1 wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Alexander Lamaison<awl03_at_[hidden]>  wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:51:10 -0700, Sebastian Redl wrote:
>>
>>> So the question is perfectly valid. IMO it doesn't make any sense to
>>> design low-level components if you don't have a high-level design.

> Two things:  Has anyone looked at the Juce GUI framework
> (http://www.rawmaterialsoftware.com/juce.php)?  Its license is a bit
> nasty (GPL), but its design is fascinating.

On 09/07/2010 01:29 PM, Simonson, Lucanus J wrote:
> Design top down, implement bottom up.  Right now instead of talking about design of low level components you should instead be talking about design goals and requirements.  We should discuss the difficult subjects.

I think what Lucanus is saying is really central, in particular in this 
particular topic and discussion.

Just look at the arguments made above: I think it is clear that 
different participants in this discussion pursue quite different goals. 
Unfortunately, these aren't compatible with each other, so it's hard to 
reach an agreement.

One party argues for a standard C++ API that allows to integrate with 
existing GUIs (libraries, frameworks, toolkits), uses native toolkits 
(or at least, styles), etc.

The other wants to see such a boost project to endorse new design ideas 
(even new GUI approaches) that are highly experimental.

Neither party is wrong, of course, but unless you figure out which set 
of requirements a "boost.gui" project should support, you are very 
unlikely to get anywhere.

FWIW,
         Stefan

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