Re: [boost] [Config] Big changes in C++0x detection...

Subject: Re: [boost] [Config] Big changes in C++0x detection...
From: Michael Fawcett (michael.fawcett_at_[hidden])
Date: 2011-03-17 14:13:13

On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Walker
<daniel.j.walker_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Eric Niebler <eric_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>> On 3/17/2011 11:29 PM, Noah Roberts wrote:
>>> On 3/16/2011 1:53 PM, Stephan T. Lavavej wrote:
>>>> Please report such bugs through Microsoft Connect instead of suffering
>>>> in silence. If they affect you as a Boost developer or Boost user,
>>>> please explain that too - it helps us to understand the impact of a bug.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously we try to find and fix bugs ourselves, but submitting bug
>>>> reports helps us help you. :->
>>>
>>> I tried that route as have several others. Â Official response was, "We
>>> know, suck it."
>> <snip>
>>
>> Haha! And hear hear! Stephan, I frequently file bugs through the Connect
>> website. Sometimes I wonder why because almost without exception they're
>> closed "Won't Fix".
>
> Ditto. I've had the same experience.
>
> http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/571720/c-use-of-member-template-causes-internal-compiler-error

This seems like an entirely reasonable response.  I've heard similar
responses from Boost Release Managers on this mailing list.

>> A humble suggestion: issue compiler patches out of band. And if you're
>> going to ask people to file bugs, fix them.
>
> +1

Pot meet kettle?  Boost has the same issues, in fact 1.46.1 is the
first point release in a long time, even when it was desperately
needed in the past.  It has tickets that languish for years in Trac.
Stephan seems to stay up to date with this list and seems to genuinely
try to better Visual Studio.  I can't see why he is being piled on.

--Michael Fawcett