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Subject: Re: [boost] Pull request sanitise run on Travis CI (Re: [git] Near future.. How do we deal with git-native libraries?)
From: Niall Douglas (s_sourceforge_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-12-04 12:52:18
On 2 Dec 2013 at 17:59, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> > Given the work involved, and Travis's fairly restricted per job
> > timeout, I think this will be a per-maintainer effort. It might be
> > possible for a single "Does it build on Linux with default GCC?"
> > sanity run yes, but for anything beyond that I fear it will be a
> > per-project initiative. It took me many weeks to get AFIO's automated
> > build infrastructure working right. I can't see anyone volunteering
> > that time except for their own libraries.
>
> I should have explained my idea clearer, I didn't mean to use Travis CI for
> actual builds (compilation+ linking), because there are certain limitations,
> as you pointed.
>
> I meant to use Travis CI for some support lightweight tasks such as sanitising
> PRs, running Inspect, and perhaps hook-like things.
> Simply, to use Travis as Unix shell, not for running actual builds or
> regression tests.
Oh sure. Travis is very flexible. For example I have a job on there
whose sole purpose is the run the unit tests with gcov and upload the
coverage to Coveralls.io, because coveralls.io has special support
for Travis. My only irritation with Travis is there is no such thing
as job dependencies, so all jobs always run with each commit. On
Jenkins I have a clang static analysis preflight check off which all
other jobs hang as a dependency, so if the static analysis fails I
know I've done something really stupid e.g. forgot to commit a file.
> I may be stretching the purpose of Travis, I realise :)
If a commit could be rejected because Travis says no, I think that
would a hugely useful feature. That isn't available to us, so sure a
pull request automated scanner and rejector looks the next best
thing. It just requires, I suppose, someone to do the work. I guess I
have much more experience here than I should thanks to AFIO.
Sometime soon after this modularisation we're surely going to have to
add dependencies support to Boost modules so say Boost.AFIO can say
it really needs Boost.Filesystem for example. Right now we have to
rely on build failures to spot missing dependencies. It isn't ideal,
especially for Travis as you have to hardcode the git clone of the
right submodules as pulling the kitchen sink takes too long. That
sounds brittle, and not especially maintainable.
> > While messy and generating a lot of unhelpful noise, I haven't found
> > any way better than bot-posted comments so far. Unfortunate, but it
> > does work.
>
> Makes sense to me.
The problem with bot commenting is you, and everyone else in the
project, gets an email for every comment. This because very wearing
after a while, puts you off making pull requests :(
Niall
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