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Subject: Re: [boost] Pull request sanitise run on Travis CI (Re: [git] Near future.. How do we deal with git-native libraries?)
From: Mateusz Loskot (mateusz_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-12-05 05:29:44
On 4 December 2013 17:52, Niall Douglas <s_sourceforge_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2013 at 17:59, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
>
>> > Given the work involved, and Travis's fairly restricted per job
>> > timeout, I think this will be a per-maintainer effort. It might be
>> > possible for a single "Does it build on Linux with default GCC?"
>> > sanity run yes, but for anything beyond that I fear it will be a
>> > per-project initiative. It took me many weeks to get AFIO's automated
>> > build infrastructure working right. I can't see anyone volunteering
>> > that time except for their own libraries.
>>
>> I should have explained my idea clearer, I didn't mean to use Travis CI for
>> actual builds (compilation+ linking), because there are certain limitations,
>> as you pointed.
>>
>> I meant to use Travis CI for some support lightweight tasks such as sanitising
>> PRs, running Inspect, and perhaps hook-like things.
>> Simply, to use Travis as Unix shell, not for running actual builds or
>> regression tests.
>
> Oh sure. Travis is very flexible. For example I have a job on there
> whose sole purpose is the run the unit tests with gcov and upload the
> coverage to Coveralls.io, because coveralls.io has special support
> for Travis. My only irritation with Travis is there is no such thing
> as job dependencies, so all jobs always run with each commit.
You're right, for such a complex project like Boost, that is quite a limitation.
>> I may be stretching the purpose of Travis, I realise :)
>
> If a commit could be rejected because Travis says no, I think that
> would a hugely useful feature. That isn't available to us, so sure a
> pull request automated scanner and rejector looks the next best
> thing. It just requires, I suppose, someone to do the work. I guess I
> have much more experience here than I should thanks to AFIO.
I also have experience with Travis, configured it for a bunch of C++ projects,
each with numerous and sometimes complex dependencies.
So, if we see Travis useful for Boost at some point, I may help as well.
> Sometime soon after this modularisation we're surely going to have to
> add dependencies support to Boost modules so say Boost.AFIO can say
> it really needs Boost.Filesystem for example. Right now we have to
> rely on build failures to spot missing dependencies. It isn't ideal,
> especially for Travis as you have to hardcode the git clone of the
> right submodules as pulling the kitchen sink takes too long. That
> sounds brittle, and not especially maintainable.
I think revisions matching is the common way to juggle submodules.
That's what Qt does, I think:
>From "Using latest branches in the submodules" at
http://qt-project.org/wiki/Building_Qt_5_from_Git
"By default the checkout will not contain the latest stable/dev branches of each
individual submodule repository, but a combination of versions that
are known to work together."
>> > While messy and generating a lot of unhelpful noise, I haven't found
>> > any way better than bot-posted comments so far. Unfortunate, but it
>> > does work.
>>
>> Makes sense to me.
>
> The problem with bot commenting is you, and everyone else in the
> project, gets an email for every comment. This because very wearing
> after a while, puts you off making pull requests :(
BTW, I at some point for SOCI project, was playing with sending
GitHub notifications to a dedicated mailing list, subject lines
prepared to indicate matter (i.e. comment or new issue, what label of issue)
Such system allows use of e-mail inbox filtering and avoid unnecessary noise.
I stole this idea from libusbx folks:
http://pete.akeo.ie/2012/07/using-rss2email-and-github-feeds-to.html
Best regards,
-- Mateusz Åoskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
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