Subject: Re: [boost] CMake Announcement from Boost Steering Committee
From: Alain Miniussi (Alain.Miniussi_at_[hidden])
Date: 2017-07-21 08:06:11
On 21/07/2017 02:26, Paul Mensonides via Boost wrote:
> On 7/20/2017 2:35 PM, Jared Grubb via Boost wrote:
>>> From where I am sitting, CMake is the clear winner of the "build
>>> war". Regardless of how you personally feel about the technical
>>> merits, it
>>> is hard to argue that Boost as a project and a community is not
>>> better off
>>> due to this change.
>>> To some people, this seems out of the blue. To me, this seems
>>> There have been many discussions on the Boost mailing list over the
>>> months (years, even) about having CMake be a requirement for new
>>> and using it as the default build system. We, as a community, pride
>>> ourselves on keeping up with modern software development practices.
>>> In C++,
>>> that increasingly means using CMake.
> Technical merit is all that matters. We shouldn't be following the
> popular vote of the unwashed masses. Boost should be leading--which
> is really what Boost was about--not "reaching the most people."
Great, we can drop support for all those platforms and compilers people
should not be using anymore.
And C++11 was so 200X anyway.
Actually, why stick to C++ ? D is the future!
>>> If you imagine two possible futures: one in which Boost uses CMake
>>> as the
>>> build system and one in which it uses b2, which future do you
>>> imagine is
>>> better for Boost in the coming years?
> What is better is for Boost to return to what it once was--a bastion
> of pioneering innovation that pushed the state of the art.
A pioneer is someone who's comes first and then is followed by the
masses. As far as bjam is concerned, it seems it's been stuck in phase 1
for quite a few years now.
Boost is a collection C++ libraries, maybe innovation should focus on that.
> That implies that "doing things the way everybody else does just
> because" is not an argument.
> Sadly, Boost appears to me to have progressively degenerated and is
> rapidly approaching mediocrity. CMake is just one more step in that
> The SC can go ahead and implement everything themselves while all the
> people that did all the real work leave. What a colossal example of
> arrogance and overstepping. I agree with Vladimir Prus except that I
> wouldn't vote to reelect any of them--including those that have
> contributed to Boost. And, no, Niall, having done some good does not
> make someone above reproach.
> Paul Mensonides
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