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Subject: Re: [ublas] Numeric bindings repository
From: Rutger ter Borg (rutger_at_[hidden])
Date: 2014-04-08 11:09:36
Hey all,
I guess I agree with Karl about having the numeric bindings as a
seperate project. Indeed, the bindings are just that: to bind algorithms
and containers. But I think David has a point in that the bindings
should become 'highly publicized' and should be made simple to access.
Karl, I don't think having too many different libraries is a language
problem. Enough other languages are suffering from the same problem. The
numeric bindings themselves are an additional library ;-)
Cheers,
Rutger
On 2014-04-08 14:48, Karl Meerbergen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd prefer to keep the bindings as a separate project since it is also
> used/can be used by other packages. At some point, there was a
> discussion about MTL4 also using the bindings, but I guess noone
> specialized the traits classes for MTL4. Anyway, the bindings were not
> meant to be part of a single library but to bridge libraries with
> existing numerical libraries in an easy way. I never liked the idea to
> put the traits class specializations for ublas in the bindings
> themselves. They should be part of ublas.
>
> My opinion is that there are too many different C++ libraries, which
> makes it impossible for developers to provide standard software that can
> be used by everyone. For example, how easy is it for an application
> engineer who uses ublas to use software written using MTL4 and vice
> versa? In my opinion, the variety of packages is contraproductive and
> scares people away from using C++. This is another reason for not
> merging the bindings in a single library.
>
> Best,
>
> Karl
>
>
> On 04/08/2014 02:36 PM, David Bellot wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> it really depends on what we want to achieve in the end. Numeric
>> bindings need more visibility and have to be officially associated
>> with ublas. This can be done in 2 possible ways:
>>
>> (1) either we have a separate project that will remain separated but
>> highly publicized and people will have a simple way to download and
>> install bindings. We will have to do reference to it in the
>> documentation. Releases will be independent from the main Boost.uBLAS
>> (the one I will push from github/ublas/ublas to github/boostorg/ublas)
>>
>> (2) or we integrate them into the official Boost.uBLAS. It's not a bad
>> idea when you think about it. But maybe it's too much for a single
>> library like ublas.
>>
>> (3) a third option would be to split them up into basic and advanced
>> bindings because in the end, I want ublas to smoothly interact with
>> the main numerical libraries. And the job is already done with the
>> bindings.
>>
>> Option (3) means we will have the bindings as a development branch in
>> github/ublas.
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Nasos Iliopoulos <nasos_i_at_[hidden]
>> <mailto:nasos_i_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> since the transition to github seems complete now, I believe it is
>> also the time to migrate the numeric bindings there as well. Here
>> are two options :
>> 1. Include the bindings in the regular uBlas branch in the
>> development repository (https://github.com/uBLAS/ublas)
>> 2. Create a new repository in https://github.com/uBLAS/ that will
>> serve as the official numeric bindings repository (and of course
>> provide access to all the interested developers and maintainers)
>>
>> I would vote for no. 2 as I think it would be better for projects
>> that cannot be classified as "basic or semi-basic" linear algebra
>> to be kept separate from the ublas repository for the moment, but
>> still have a very close relationship with the official project.
>>
>> - What does everybody think?
>> - Do any other options cross your mind?
>>
>> -Nasos
>>
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