From: Alan Gutierrez (alan-boost_at_[hidden])
Date: 2004-12-24 16:18:26
* David Abrahams <dave_at_[hidden]> [2004-12-24 13:28]:
> Alan Gutierrez wrote:
> > Q - 2) Yes.
> > If the project is to develop a GUI library using modern C++,
> > then Boost is the right place. Boost has the community. Boost
> > has the knowledge.
> > Developing a GUI library is a complex undertaking. Startging out
> > with a new community slows things down considerably.
> > Building a community takes time. Establishing mailing lists
> > takes time. Setting up a web site takes time. Choosing a name
> > takes time.
> > Upon success of the project, it is likely to need a separate
> > umberella, but until then, building a community to support a
> > project so complex, to me, is far more daunting than the
> > software itself.
> I don't know if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't
> overemphasize how odious I find the idea of capitalizing on Boost's
> ready-made community, knowledge, and mailing lists, only to take the
> successful project away later and run it under "a separate umbrella."
By Jove, No!
I do not believe that a project of this sort, upon success,
could be severed from its community. Please, don't think that I
was suggesting that a Boost GUI would survive without depth of
knowledge, and collective wisdom of the Boost contriubtors.
For me to suggest such a thing, is not only odious, it is
I know where you are coming from. I ain't one of those.
I'm imagining a project like this will create artifacts, like a
froms library, or an XML + CSS renderer, or a vector graphics
library, that would attract end users who are not at all
familiar with the finer points of C++ programming.
A GUI library would put screenshots on the Boost web site for
the first time, and screen shots attract all sorts of inquieries.
I phrased my post to attempt to address, and raise, the concerns
of those who don't want to answer, "how do I put a check mark
next to a menu item?", three times a week. If there there a
couple screen shots of a versitile boost::grid on the Boost web
site, you could bank postings that were no more than "I don't
know C++, but tell me how to to that!"
I want to see this project develop under Boost, because I think
that it would generate an excellent GUI library implementation.
I am hoping that the project is not forsaken because it is too
broad in scope, since that would invite a new organization to
form under the misconception that a GUI library has a
necessarily huge code base. The Boost community, I suspect, is
going to be particular about keeping the implementation lean.
I imagine "a separate umberella", Boost branded and managed, to
handle a new set of end users who arrive in response to a Boost
GUI, who are not C++ programmers, but are compelled by what they
see to employ C++ in their projects.
With the Boost Python in place, plus a Boost GUI, Boost might
get traffic that is not at all C++ related. I'd hate to see that
shut Boost GUI down, or send it off to browner pastures.
-- Alan Gutierrez - alan_at_[hidden]
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