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From: Simon Buchan (simon_at_[hidden])
Date: 2005-09-29 20:39:49

Pavel Vozenilek wrote:
> "Andy Little" wrote:
>>>If anything you may join existing "modern C++"
>>>GUI library like John Torjo's win32gui,
>>Is win32gui ever seriously going to target anything other than Windows?
> AFAIK yes. John started preparations for GTK support though
> he "would welcome other's help".
>>SmartWindows looks like it follows the Windows API slavishly
> Yes. My personal opinion is that win32gui is more abstract.
>>Ultima++ has little or no documentation
> Well, it is work of two guys who also created their own STL,
> full featured IDE, scripting language and other things.
> I am amazed how much they did
Hmm. I got the same feeling using it that I get if I use MFC, that the
IDE knows more about whats going on than I do, and the whole vertical
stack thing is normally considered to be quite bad, isn't it?
>>unfortunately VCF certainly looks quite
>>interesting and I hope to look further at it, though they seem from an
>>glance to be duplicating a lot of functionality eg streams, strings and
>>own date-time library.
> Having own string class looks as mandatory for GUI lib writers ;-)
> I guess you see NIH syndrom and attempt to completely control
> code base. Quite typical for projects with few people.
> /Pavel
For those who have no idea what NIH is:

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