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Subject: Re: [boost] 5 Observations - My experience with the boost libraries
From: Stewart, Robert (Robert.Stewart_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-03-24 08:27:34

Tom Brinkman wrote:
> Those of us that started out learning C++ before ever
> learning C, have had to do lots of backfilling.
> By learning C, what I mean is getting really good at pointer
> manipulations and managing memory yourself.

I started with a couple of years of C programming (following BASIC, FORTRAN, etc.), moved on to C++ in 1987, IIRC, and never looked back. Even so, I once did all the code I could using pointers and pointer arithmetic, just to cement those concepts in my mind. Others, of course, spent more time with C before moving to C++. The point is that many hard core C++ programmers actually know something about C, too.

> C++ encourages all sorts of programming practices that I wish I never
> learned and have never been very useful to me as a programmer.

What are those? I can't say I know of anything that fits that description. If you can give concrete examples, we could make them Boost guidelines.

> Sorry to say, but as a graphics programer, C++ is practically
> useless. Its all C.

Ah, now we come to the crux of the matter. In your world, "C++ is practically useless," so that generalizes to the rest of the programming world and means Boost isn't relevant to today's programmers.

> For Boost to remain relevent, it needs to reflect the reality
> of modern development. That is most projects are mixed C/C++
> projects. The needs of both communities need to be met.

I reject your statement out of hand. Most projects are not mixed C and C++. Some are, some aren't. We don't do *any* C here, for example.

> Because boost only meets the needs of C++ developers, it will
> continue to loose relevance.
> I'm just saying what people are thinking.

You're just saying what *some* people are saying. The question is whether there are things Boost can do better that would be of use to all, not just to C programmers.

Rob Stewart robert.stewart_at_[hidden]
Software Engineer, Core Software using std::disclaimer;
Susquehanna International Group, LLP

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