Re: [boost] GNOME outreachy

Subject: Re: [boost] GNOME outreachy
From: Bryce Adelstein Lelbach aka wash (brycelelbach_at_[hidden])
Date: 2018-08-25 08:28:11

> an org admin could be found, it could happen.

I have little time to spare these days.

But diversity is important enough to me that I will happily find the time
to administer a Boost outreachy if the community wants it to happen. As
many of you know, I serve in an administrative role for a number of Boost
community projects, such as C++Now and SoC, so I have plenty of familiarity
with what's involved in something like this.

> Outreachy requires orgs to practice discrimination of a form which is
illegal in some parts of the world. I certainly could not abide by it,
it contravenes
EU human rights legislation, and I also find it morally wrong.

Niall,

Do you realize that outreachy is a project of the Software Freedom
Conservancy?

The same Software Freedom Conservancy that has graciously and expertly
managed the finances and legal matters for the Boost organization?

Do you realize that the hard-working people from the Software Freedom
Conservancy, who help sustain Boost, are probably on this list?

You basically just called some very hard-working and dedicated contributors
to Boost criminals.

It doesn't matter what your opinion of Outreachy is. I think you should
show some respect to the people who run it, because they have done more to
keep the Boost community going than either you or I.

In the future, choose your words more carefully.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 12:01 PM Niall Douglas via Boost <
boost_at_[hidden]> wrote:

> > I was hoping why don't we also apply for GNOME outreachy also it is also
> > similar to GSoC and can also help our community to grow. and by appearing
> > in end of year internship in GNOME outreachy we can keep a flow of new
> > contributors and motivate people to contribute to opensource throughout
> the
> > year.
>
> Boost has always functioned as a strictly equal meritocracy. You get
> judged here completely independent of who or what you are. We, quite
> frankly, don't care so long as you can write excellent C++ and defend
> that C++ in front of everyone else here. Some long standing members here
> have pseudonyms for various personal reasons, and nobody cares.
>
> Outreachy requires orgs to practice discrimination of a form which is
> illegal in some parts of the world. I certainly could not abide by it,
> it contravenes EU human rights legislation, and I also find it morally
> wrong.
>
> Nevertheless, I am not the Boost community, and it is probably good to
> rediscuss this from time to time. If the Boost community saw a consensus
> favour in it, and an org admin could be found, it could happen.
>
> Be aware that I would fight such a decision with everything that I have,
> and last time this came up for discussion on boost-steering I was not
> alone in this view of Outreachy's funding conditions. I would assume
> that hasn't changed, but it was a few years ago now it was last discussed.
>
> Niall
>
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