Re: [Async] Naming land grab?

From: Klemens Morgenstern (klemensdavidmorgenstern_at_[hidden])
Date: 2023-10-03 08:04:20

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:35 PM Bjørn Roald <bjorn.roald_at_[hidden]> wrote:

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> On 3 Oct 2023, at 09:04, Klemens Morgenstern via Boost <
> boost_at_[hidden]> wrote:
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> Well, if we're going for fun, then i dare to propose Boost.ACE, which
> would stand for Asio Coroutine Extensions.
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> Well that name may work, but it is sort of a throw-off for me as I am old
> enough to know about the Adaptive Communication Environment (ACE):
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> The ADAPTIVE Communication Environment (ACE)
> <https://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html>
> dre.vanderbilt.edu <https://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html>
> [image: favicon.ico] <https://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html>
> <https://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html>
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> As ACE address related in problem domains, and as it still is live and
> kicking in its own corners of the C++ world, such a name choice begs the
> question of what the relation is.  So for what it is worth, to me that
> name is taken to mean something else.  Sorry.
>

Absolutely fair point. This is why naming is hard. And for me `async` is
associated with the async keyword in other languages, that do something
quite similar.

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> Also, without having had time to review the proposed Boost.Async as
> closely as I would like to form an opinion on acceptance. I have read the
> docs and I was really hoping the ASIO dependency was more of a backend
> issue in need of executors. If so, adding ASIO in its name is perhaps a
> poor choice.
>

It is. asio's any_io_executor is a pretty good polymorphic executor, that
can run on any event loop (e.g. Qt). I even have an example in async which
is using python's asyncio event loop instead of asio's.
I think many users remember the early days of asio, when everything was
directly dependent on asio's io_context and thus think my dependency means
you'll get all of asio included.
A lot has happened, and asio contains the proposed standard executors,
which is the part async is depending on.

>
> —
> Bjørn
>